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how many activations does XP pro have?

Walleye

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i have an OEM copy of XP pro that came with my Dell machine.

how many installations do i have with it? i've used the activation thing like 3 times...
 
As long as you don't change more than four components on the pc in a 120 day period you don't have to worry. As long as the components in the system match whats in the MS database I don't think there is a limit to the number of activations. I've done it at least 8 times.
 
You can activate as many times as needed. Activation can take place up to 3 times in 120 days online. If you try to activate more than that a simple, 5 minute (tops) phone call to Microsoft will get you activated again. There is no "upper limit" or maximum number of times you can install before the disk self destructs or something.

\Dan
 
If it goes by recognizing hardware, would you be able to put one copy of XP on two identical machines?
No. For one thing, it's illegal. For another, the hash is unique and created per computer, so they would be different, even with "identical" hardware, even though hardware is never identical. Different serial numbers, manufacture dates, IRQ settings, etc are probably taken into account in some way, shape or form. In a world of identical corporate PCs numbering in hundreds, or even thousands, in some companies, I'll bet Microsoft is way ahead of people trying to do this. Don't you?

\Dan
 
Well, no, my guess is MS makes a good try, but sheesh I think I reinstalled and activated windows more than three times during a MS tech support call. (trouble with a video card, and some network cards, plus a slow boot problem tech support never did figure out).

Regards the multi identical machine install, no I would not expect three idential PCs to have "anything" different in terms of irq etc, at least not any more than rebooting the same machine three times with the cmos cleared between boots. My guess is that windows does some kind of network check to see if any other machine is using the same key.
 
Originally posted by: bacillus
hmm, I'm a little confused as I don't need to activate my dell oem copy of xp which came with my dell laptop!

Dell has some special tricks - something in the BIOS that they can use to not to regular activation.
 
My Dell 4600 came w/ XP Home and I've since installed XP Pro. I was able to install the OEM XP Home on my Dell 4100 w/ out activation or even entering the product key. Dell OEM XPs must not need activation.
 
Originally posted by: CTho9305
Originally posted by: bacillus
hmm, I'm a little confused as I don't need to activate my dell oem copy of xp which came with my dell laptop!

Dell has some special tricks - something in the BIOS that they can use to not to regular activation.

Nothing special in the bios, thats rediculous!!!!

Ever here of VOLUME licensing which doesn't need activation?

 
Originally posted by: mboy
Originally posted by: CTho9305
Originally posted by: bacillus
hmm, I'm a little confused as I don't need to activate my dell oem copy of xp which came with my dell laptop!

Dell has some special tricks - something in the BIOS that they can use to not to regular activation.

Nothing special in the bios, thats rediculous!!!!

Ever here of VOLUME licensing which doesn't need activation?

I'm pretty sure that if you clone a dell XP install to another machine, it won't work. IIRC, there is a part of the BIOS that most apps don't flash (and not all mobos are willing to flash) which can be used to hold vendor information. I was under the impression Dell used this.

edit: and your spelling of "rediculous"? That's ridiculous 😉. Your use of "here" is also pretty ridiculous 😀

edit2: I was right. Don't flame people before doing research.

Of course, many users will never experience WPA. Most PC vendors will preactivate Windows XP. In addition, vendors can key Windows XP activation to a single value in the BIOS. You then can change everything in the machine without reactivating if the BIOS doesn't change. And corporate customers can buy volume licenses, which don't require activation.
Source. Is it really ridiculous?

edit3: I think Asus motherboards (or the flash program they provide) can change that ID... I wonder if changing it to whatever Dell uses would allow for mass piracy.
 
It's about crazy how some of you ppl will attack others about grammar and spelling issues. Mostly after they attack you so a cheap reattack is needed. Anyways I never had to reg or activate my xp copies on my old gateways and hp computers. I also activated my xp home 3 times in one day! It's mostly having to do with the hardware thoe ~~~ Just don't change it around a lot ya know.

--Idoxash
 
So If I have a business who is installing WinXP Pro on multiple computers what kind of license would I need to buy to install WinXP Pro on three computers?

Sorry, I don't know much about license's since my friend got me a Volume License so I don't have to bother. 🙂

-Por
 
Originally posted by: CTho9305
Yea, back up wpa.dbl and wpa.back in windows\system32. You can restore them in safe mode.
You know, I have tried that several times and have never gotten it to work..

 
Originally posted by: GonzoDaGr8
Originally posted by: CTho9305
Yea, back up wpa.dbl and wpa.back in windows\system32. You can restore them in safe mode.
You know, I have tried that several times and have never gotten it to work..

I think I tried it once and it worked. YMMV though, I guess 😉. It certainly wouldn't work if you changed a lot of hardware.
 
Well, no, my guess is MS makes a good try, but sheesh I think I reinstalled and activated windows more than three times during a MS tech support call. (trouble with a video card, and some network cards, plus a slow boot problem tech support never did figure out).
My reading of this leads me to believe you were on the phone with Microsoft during these times? If so, that explains why you were able to activate so often. In any case, you "think" you installed it that often.

Regards the multi identical machine install, no I would not expect three idential PCs to have "anything" different in terms of irq etc, at least not any more than rebooting the same machine three times with the cmos cleared between boots. My guess is that windows does some kind of network check to see if any other machine is using the same key.
I suppose you wouldn't expect IRQs to be different, but that doesn't mean they won't be. In any case, the configuration is how activation works. Serial numbers (as I understand it) are not used (as I mistakenly said in my original post, I actually researched more since then) and found (among lots of other info) this:
Product Activation does not scan the customer's hard drive, detect any personal information, or determine the make, model or manufacturer of the PC or its components. Microsoft uses hash values out of respect for users' privacy. A hash value cannot be backwards calculated to determine the original value. In addition, Microsoft only uses a portion of the original hash values.
Since each computer generates it's own hash code from its hardware, I suppose it is theoretically possible that somehow two hashes are the same in the case of identical hardware. This is not likely, as only a portion of the hash is used, so there are literally millions and millions of possible combinations for identical computers. There is no "network check". The computer talks to the Activation Server only once, upon activation. The Activation Server reports back with either an ID that activates the software, or not. If not, your code was used, and you need to call Microsoft (for example, if you internet activate 4 times in a week).

\Dan

Quote source
Crap loads of activation information at Microsoft
 
I believe it does use the processor serial number on Intel chips. It also uses the MAC address, so even 2 "identical" systems will already have 2 of the 3 differences right there.
 
I believe it does use the processor serial number on Intel chips.
Maybe. I just figured not, since MS says that it doesn't use/gather any data on the "make, model or manufacturer of the PC or its components". I just felt I needed to correct myself, since earlier I posted that serial numbers were in fact used from any piece of hardware. The research I did leads me to believe SNs probably are not used.

\Dan
 
Originally posted by: CTho9305
Originally posted by: GonzoDaGr8
Originally posted by: CTho9305
Yea, back up wpa.dbl and wpa.back in windows\system32. You can restore them in safe mode.
You know, I have tried that several times and have never gotten it to work..

I think I tried it once and it worked. YMMV though, I guess 😉. It certainly wouldn't work if you changed a lot of hardware.

I do this constantly, at least once per week. It works just perfect. Saves the 5 minute phone call to MS.

 
There is a very detailed explaination of how the product activation code is determined right here: http://www.microsoft.com/piracy/basics/activation/windowsproductactivationtechnicalmarketbulletin.doc

Hardware Scanned:
Component Name /// Example Hash Value (#o of bits)
Display Adapter 00010 (5)
SCSI Adapter 00011 (5)
IDE Adapter 0011 (4)
Network Adapter MAC Address 1001011000 (10)
RAM Amount Range (i.e. 0-64mb, 64-128mb, etc) 101 (3)
Processor Type 011 (3)
Processor Serial Number 000000 (6)
Hard Drive Device 1101100 (7)
Hard Drive Volume Serial Number 1001000001 (10)
CD?ROM / CD-RW / DVD-ROM 0101111 (7)
?Dockable? 0 (1)
Hardware Hash version (version of algorithm used) 001 (3)
 
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