How long until Anonymous gets busted?

[Zeze]

It's been quite amusing to see how helpless anyone can be against cyberterrorism, particularly from the high-profile persistent group Anonymous.

The whole HBGary thing was hilarious. And now this whole massive shut down of PSN is just crazy.

While I'm not 'against' Anonymous, what they're doing is terribly illegal. They are a constant reminder to me the internet is still in its infancy and even mega corporations and governments are helpless against Anonymous.

How does someone 'stop' them? They're completely decentralized, but I seriously doubt that. For every group action in history, there is a leader or leaders that rise to each occasions.

Something I've been pondering. Is the government even remotely close to stopping them?

 

[TridenT]

Yeah, you're on dah list now.

 

[TechAZ]

I thought 'Anonymous' wasn't behind the Sony attack. If we catch them depends on what country the forensic team finds that they uploaded the the stuff to Amazon is from.

 

[AstroManLuca]

Anonymous can't be stopped as they don't have a leader and aren't really an organization in the sense that you think of them. Anonymous is more like a school of thought than an organization. You can say the government should track down and arrest those people responsible for illegal hacking, but even if they get every single person involved, it doesn't mean they've "busted Anonymous."

It sounds like you're asking if the government ever find or stop the people responsible for hacking the PSN, then I don't know, but it's possible. But that's not Anonymous. Anonymous is just a name some people use.

For what it's worth, most people on 4chan disapprove of the PSN hacking, aside from the most hardcore Xbox fanboys. Even then, they might joke about PSN being down but still don't approve of the actions that were taken.

 

[Alone]

Since Anonymous isn't a consistent group with any real sort of irreplaceable structure, they can never fall. They're such a massively large group that they'll likely always be around.

 

[SSSnail]

We are Anonymous.
We are Legion.
We do not forgive.
We do not forget.

Expect us, always.

 

[AstroManLuca]

Since Anonymous isn't a consistent group with any real sort of irreplaceable structure, they can never fall. They're such a massively large group that they'll likely always be around.

Exactly; the only way Anonymous can ever "fall" is if the anonymous (small a) image board culture becomes unpopular. But I think it will continue on in some fashion as an alternative to things like Facebook where you have no anonymity at all.

The other thing is at some point people will probably get tired of referring to themselves as capital-A Anonymous because of their bad reputation, and it might dwindle, but nothing will have really changed.

 

[Newbian]

I thought 'Anonymous' wasn't behind the Sony attack. If we catch them depends on what country the forensic team finds that they uploaded the the stuff to Amazon is from.

The people that took responsibility said they were from anon but as people have said it's not like a real group of people but just random people all over the world with really no connection to each other.

 

[zerocool84]

The people that took responsibility said they were from anon but as people have said it's not like a real group of people but just random people all over the world with really no connection to each other.

Exactly, anyone can call themselves Anon but then that means that yes Anon did it.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Aren't they already turning on one another?

 

[zerocool84]

Aren't they already turning on one another?

In the Console Gaming thread about this there was an article saying that there was one group that said they didn't want to do anything again to PSN because it'd hurt the people who just want to play games then there was one group that didn't care.

 

[Alone]

Aren't they already turning on one another?

That further supports what I was saying. Even a civil war between them won't change anything. All it takes is someone to launch an attack on something and call it the work of "Anonymous". No one gives any particular order or command, they just do shit as a group, or by themselves, and give credit to the group.

 

[alkemyst]

People are afraid of terrorism in the form of a jet crash, dirty bomb, etc...but what all these virus writers are hoping to accomplish is taking out say something like a powergrid for a major city.

As americans we have proven to the world that as soon as the lights go out, we turn into savages and steal/murder/rape.

Any real end of the world situation, most of the more likely to be helpful in saving the race will have been killed for their PS3 and iPhones that don't even work.

Japan was a great example of how a country should act.

 

[brainhulk]

how exactly do find someone that used a proxy server to launch an attack? can isp trace it?

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

"He is the one"

The Matrix

 

[shortylickens]

They're like a terrorist cell, they cant be stopped.

Just get rid of the reasons for them to make attacks.

 

[alkemyst]

how exactly do find someone that used a proxy server to launch an attack? can isp trace it?

They would need cooperation from anyone along the change.

Eventually the originating machine can be pointed too.

The thing with an 'open proxy' is they usually aren't logging. So they aren't keeping records that could be later used against another.

What ends up happening is the Big IP's blackhole those open relays/proxies so you can't reach them from their networks.

 

[MotF Bane]

It will not and cannot happen.

 

[alkemyst]

The thing with "Anon" is it's not a single group, nor is everyone part of it a bad person.

I helped track down one of the guys that went online harming cats and ended up local to me.

In that case there was no crime commited by the group, just a extremely large group of concerned people getting the powers that be off their asses and on patrol. People looking at pictures were able to pinpoint where the dude lived and with other clues narrow down schools and parents.

A lot of them are damaged people that want to punish the world for their short-comings. When you get 1000's of script-kiddies teaming together you can do a lot of damage.

Most aren't even concerned with the reasons, they just get giggity over hurting someone.

a new cat showed up today at my feed station. Looks like someone blinded his one eye and burned the side of his face (or threw him and skinned it).

Fortunately it looks like the cheek will heal and he was able to eat ok. He was too afraid for me to get him to check more. Hopefully if he comes around more he will get tame enough where I can capture him and as least get him to the vet if it doesn't look like he is healing.

The one thing that sucks about feeding these strays is they usually come back here to die.

 

[bunnyfubbles]

Anonymous is really just Skynet creating a front to distract us from the real cyberspace threat.

 

[Joseph F]

The thing with "Anon" is it's not a single group, nor is everyone part of it a bad person.

I helped track down one of the guys that went online harming cats and ended up local to me.

In that case there was no crime commited by the group, just a extremely large group of concerned people getting the powers that be off their asses and on patrol. People looking at pictures were able to pinpoint where the dude lived and with other clues narrow down schools and parents.

A lot of them are damaged people that want to punish the world for their short-comings. When you get 1000's of script-kiddies teaming together you can do a lot of damage.

Most aren't even concerned with the reasons, they just get giggity over hurting someone.

a new cat showed up today at my feed station. Looks like someone blinded his one eye and burned the side of his face (or threw him and skinned it).

Fortunately it looks like the cheek will heal and he was able to eat ok. He was too afraid for me to get him to check more. Hopefully if he comes around more he will get tame enough where I can capture him and as least get him to the vet if it doesn't look like he is healing.

The one thing that sucks about feeding these strays is they usually come back here to die.

So much truth in this post.

 

[I Saw OJ]

Wheres the damn cyber police when you need them?

 

[DominionSeraph]

how exactly do find someone that used a proxy server to launch an attack? can isp trace it?

"This weekend, at XX convention center, Lauren Faust will be giving a sit-down discussion of her role in the new series, My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic. A signing session will also be held. Tickets are free, and available at 555-5555."

Doesn't really narrow it down, though...

 

[shortylickens]

Wheres the damn cyber police when you need them?

They are too busy backtracing every message to Jessi Slaughter.

 

[Anonemous]

/goes into hiding...