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How long left for AGP

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russell2002

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Anyone any info on how long before getting a decent motherboard with support for the latest processors and an agp port will be.

Only looking at getting an AGP G-card as PCI-e is 80% more for the card I want........

Alough I dont need the speed or features of either AGP or PCIe.
 
Hmm..I?m not sure if there?s an answer to your question. However, if I may ask you a question, if you don?t need PCIe or AGP, as you stated, then why would you bother with either of them? If you want a computer that's just for surfing and for performing miscellaneous low-level tasks, you can get a dirt cheap PC with shared video memory in any electronics store.
 
Yeah, I'm a little confused as well. If you don't need either port, just get a PCIe board with onboard video or add in a cheap older tech PCI card.
 
Integrated graphics? ATi chipsets have integrated graphics with pci-e slot for future upgrades.

Judging by your indecisiveness I'm guessing you haven't bought a motherboard yet.
 
It looks like the ATOP adapter only really works with half-height AGP cards, since a full height card won't fit in the case with that adapter attached. You can pretty much forget about forget about trying to use the adapter to fit something like an AGP 6800GT into a nForce 4 PCIe board.

Half height cards are usually low end models, so what is the point in trying to get more mileage out of a FX5200 or Radeon 9200SE when you can just sell off the old AGP card and get a brand new GeForce 6200TC for $50-$60? Heck, you can pick up one of the Radeon IGP boards and get about the same performance as most of the half height cards that would be compatible with the ATOP.

Unless you already have a nice AGP card you want to keep until your next big upgrade (something in the 6800GT to X800 Pro range), I personally can't recommend buying an AGP board for a new build. Even if you are just going to go with integrated video or a cheap card like the 6200TC models, make sure you have an x16 slot just in case you get a hankering for something with the power of a 7800GTX (which may never be released in AGP) a few years down the road.
 
Originally posted by: wafflesandsyrup
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It appears to only work with a few select NVIDIA cards with a perfomrance hit (almost 10% in some cases). I thi k it only supports the MX4000, FX5200, FX5700LE, 6200, and 6800... Also, it is almost 2 inches (5cm) tall, so you would need a huge case for it to fit... A good idea, but definately needs to be fixed up a bit (thinner, more compatible, less performance hit, etc.)...
 
to answer your question thers a long time, Companise cant just say O! lets just drop AGP and go PCI-E while almost a 3rd or more of the world has AGP, PCI-E wont even be used for a nother 1-2 years! I dont even know if games before Half life 2 and Far Cry used AGP 8X! im sure they did but you get the gist. Itll take over a Year for PCI-E to get really popular and Main stream, and then after itll take 2 years for PCI-E to be really needed for games. But being a gamer im sure you dont keep your comp for ages, I get a new comp every 2-3 years.
 
Originally posted by: GregMal
They're still making PCI cards, aren't they????
It'll be a long time.....
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i dunno if they are actively making it, but nVidia has some PCi cards and support still exists (drivers, etc.)
 
I'd say you'd be able to get an agp card for about the next 2 years, but that doesn't mean you'll be able to get the High end GPU's in an agp card.

Are you buying a new mobo ? If yes then get a 939 based mobo or a cheap 754 system and plan to upgrade everything in 2 yrs.

More than likely you'd have to upgrade everything anyway in the next 2 yrs...
 
The way the computer market works makes it so that there is No point planning for a Future that is more than 3-6months.

More and more Mobos come out with No AGP at all.

You have two options.

So you have two options.
1. Get a Good PCI-e that would serve for a while.
2. Get the cheapest thing that you can find that serve your purposes and worry about the future when the future becomes present.

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Originally posted by: GregMal
They're still making PCI cards, aren't they????
It'll be a long time.....
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That's a weird situation because the PCI upgrade graphics cards still exist only because tons of computer manufacturers continue to put out low end PCs with no x16 or AGP slots on the motherboard. When you outgrow the integrated video on those boards, you have no other choice but to use the PCI slots. Those low end PCs have kept the PCI upgrade market alive all these years.

AGP will be a whole different story, since the majority of AGP users are avid gamers that upgrade their entire systems about every 3-4 years on average. I'd expect AGP to disappear quite fast, within a couple of years, as the gaming community replaces its PCs. Meanwhile, PCI will endure because the cheap POS computers will always continue to be made, until they are replaced by x1 upgrade cards.
 
Basically I run a multimonitor system and the best dual dvi output card for my non gaming non 3d needs is almost twice the cost for a PCIe interface and not available in pci.

So my decision is, buy AGP version for £100 and have to get a new G-card when I get a faster machine.

Or

Buy the PCIe version for £175 and be ready for PCIe only motherboards when I upgrade.

If that makes sense....
 
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