How long is a piece of string?

Minerva

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From Jeff Bairstow, contributing editor of Laser Focus World

I've always throught that string theory--a theory that unites quantum mechanics and general relativity--was a sort of callous trick played upon us mere mortals by intellectual mathematicians who spoke a language that was arcane and largely impenetrable. Some mathematical "tricks" we can see through easily but string theory as we we know it so far, is hardly one of those Victorian "parlor" tricks.

For example, try this. Think of a number (any number will do, integer or fraction, but the mental arithmetic is simpler if you choose a whole number between, say one and ten). Double the number and add 10. Now divide by two and then subtract the number you first thought of. Your answer (roll of drums!) is five! You don't have to be a mathematical genius to spot the "trick."

Now comes eminent Columbia University professor Brian Greene with a powerful examination of string theory and a few examples of mathematical legerdemain that make the topic accessible to us non mathematicians. Greene's book, The Fabric of the Cosmos: Space, Time, and the Texture of Reality, (Knopf, New York, NY, 2004), is a beautifully written and carefully edited volume of some 500 pages. And Greene understands that he is talking to the informed layperson and not some esoteric university post-doc seminar.

For example, here's Greene's introducing the history and rationale for string theory: "A conflict in the known laws of physics means a failure to grasp a deep truth and that was enough to keep these scientists from resting easy. Those who plunged in, though, found the waters deep and the currents rough. For long stretches of time, research made little progress; things looked bleak. Even so, the tenacity of those who had the determination to stay the course and keep alive the dream of uniting general relativity and quantum mechanics is being rewarded. Scientists are now charging down paths blazed by those explorers and are closing in on a harmonious merger of the laws of the large and the small. The approach that many agree is a leading contender is superstring theory."

Greene, of course, is something of a leading authority on the subject of superstring theory. And, there is a neat trick that makes superstring theory both possible and plausible. Greene suggests that the proposed fusion of general relativity becomes much more likely if we abandon our usual concept of a four-dimensional universe (three spatial dimensions and one time dimension) for one with ten space dimensions and one time dimension. Just try to picture that on your PC screen! :p

Naturally, Greene does not quite have the world on a string at this point! He dives unapologetically into the universe of strings and branes (shorthand for M-branes, another component of M-theory). "The grand expanse of the space-time of which we are aware--may itself be nothing more than an enormous brane," claims Greene. So it would see that ours may be a brane new world. Thank you, Professor Greene.

Well of course none of this tell us exactly how long a piece of string is--a question that Werner Heisernburg would, no doubt, have appreciated although with a dose of some well-deserved hesitation.

And do we really need to know? As the Rolls-Royce saleman in a posh London dealership when asked how fast the latest model of the legendary car woul do reportedly said to an Arabian potentate's son, "Fast enough sir, fast enough."

So we must conclude that the length of a piece of string is "long enough" to meet the theoretical demands of Professor Greene and the much smaller intellectual demands of this "ink-stained wretch"! ;) Or, at least, long enough to secure your holiday gifts agangst the percussive delivery of the U.S. Postal Service. :D

 

everman

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Multiple dimensions is nothing new really, I believe it's entirely possible that there are more dimensions we have not yet been able to detect. Kind of like an ant, unable to fathon the vastness of the universe.
 
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Originally posted by: C6FT7
Shouldn't this be here? ;)

Maybe the string was too short after all! :D

heh....i dont get this

this is off topic....its desribed as "a pub if you will" now down the pub me an my mates can talk about absolutely anything....this falls under "absolutely anything" so its not in the wrong.

which is also why NIK was pretty annoying with his wrong forum posts, its off topic there is no right or wrong (within reason of course...no porn, peado, fights etc)
 

imported_Tick

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Originally posted by: otispunkmeyer
Originally posted by: C6FT7
Shouldn't this be here? ;)

Maybe the string was too short after all! :D

heh....i dont get this

this is off topic....its desribed as "a pub if you will" now down the pub me an my mates can talk about absolutely anything....this falls under "absolutely anything" so its not in the wrong.

Ok... but most people don't talk about string theory in pubs.
 
Jun 14, 2003
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Originally posted by: Tick
Originally posted by: otispunkmeyer
Originally posted by: C6FT7
Shouldn't this be here? ;)

Maybe the string was too short after all! :D

heh....i dont get this

this is off topic....its desribed as "a pub if you will" now down the pub me an my mates can talk about absolutely anything....this falls under "absolutely anything" so its not in the wrong.

Ok... but most people don't talk about string theory in pubs.


never been on a night out with engineers/physicists have you? lol

i was in the pub 2am friday with my mates after having large sums of alcohol....and we were talking about how black holes work, and the bugatti veyrons engine, my computer got brought up at one point, so did my spare one as i explained i could turn it into a dj station for my friends house party......it was surreal
 

Minerva

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LOL gee I never claimed to write this.

OP EDITED for clarification to satisfy the semantics elitists. :thumbsdown:

It was not copied and pasted either. source
 
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When you write a post containing only a copied article, one naturally assumes the poster was the creator of said piece. I will appologize anyways, though. And I should have noticed that it wasn't copy and pasted, for there are a few spelling mistakes.

Kudos for taking the time to re-write that, though.