Originally posted by: C'DaleRider
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1
Originally posted by: Dacalo
What are you so happy about? Competition is always good for consumers.
It's not like they make sh!tty cars, if anything, they are better than most Fords and GMs.
are you talking material feel, or actual quality of the cars? the cars are pure sh1t, sorry but there is no reliability on mitsubishis, their cars are crappy. and have been. GM's are atleast driveable.
Your statement is laughable. Having driven both the new Galant and a Malibu, I can say the former is a much better car, driveability wise, and it has a better interior. Looks a hell of a lot better than the Malibu as well. Most of GMs sedans in that segment are crap; the most good press the Pontiac G6 got was when Oprah gave them away. Saturn is in dire need of a new midsized sedan; they've juiced as much as they can from the current model.
Their new Galant has a different engine and a redesigned platform, so I can't comment on its reliability, but their warranty is better than GM.
now tell me what you proved wrong in my statement. i said material feel is fine, as is the actual car, but once you put miles on the vehicle say byebye. its an unreliable pos.
So you've put miles on cars using their new platform/engine (Endeavor, Eclipse, Galant)? Doubtful.
Mitsubishi's American plant has also been assembling various Dodge/Chrysler cars for years, without any major issues.
Quality wise, they are trying in earnest to make a turnaround. But like Hyundai, the process will take a few years for the market to notice, and for the brand image to be restored.
It is too strong of a brand worldwide to vanish, and the Japanese tend to have a little more pride than the Koreans (remember how long Daewoo stuck around in the US?). I agree with the sentiment that DC will probably end up owning a large part (or all) of Mitsubishi once the company gets a little easier to acquire.
Yes, it's true Chrysler used Mitsu parts in their vehicles.......but there is a reason Chrysler moves to their own built parts and away from Mitsu designed/built parts every time. Mitsu parts are junk, pure and simple. Mitsu transmissions are just time bombs waiting to explode. Their engines, while providing good power and such, have a definite reliability problem.
I've owned two Mitsus, both Galants of different generations......1994 and 2000, and both were nice enough cars but both were just wholly unreliable as durability went. Both had transmissions die prematurely and both had numerous engine/engine component problems.
The current Mopar we have for our run-around car has a Mitsu-built V6 in it.......and again, the engine has problems. Valve guides are slipping down in the heads and prematurely wearing, causing smoking problems, esp. at idle. Known problem with the 3.0 V6 Mitsu engine design.
Hyundai, in the previous decade, used Mitsu-licensed and bought engines and trannies. Hyundai's reliability then was, to say the least, poor. Now Hyundai has started using their own designed and built drivetrains.......and right on cue, reliability got dramatically better.
Would never own another Mitsu in any shape or form. Guess that's why the Diamler/Chrysler group refused to loan Mitsu another billion dollars last year in another bailout.
Yes, Mitsu is the only Japanese car manufacturer not showing a profit.......right now. But if not for the French company Renault, Nissan would be in the same position.
