How long can wasps remember hate/rage/rape?

[SaltyNuts]

Not a wasp technically, but a "mud dauber" or something like that, what my dad used to call them. I always try and have a live-and-let-live with wasps and the like, but this one violated this. He kept buzzing around me constantly as I was banging on the punching bags out back with a vengeance. Standard workout with Liston-like jabs and Tyson hooks and uppercuts. This thing had made its nest not too too far from my punching bags, maybe 20 feet or so, so I suspect the massive vibrations caused by my jolts to the punching bag were upsetting him in his nest.

So about 30 minutes ago I got some wasp and hornet spray and sprayed his mud nest. He wasn't around and I just sprayed it for 2 seconds and ran inside to avoid his wrath. I started to walk outside about 15 minutes ago and I saw him flying with a vengeance in from right outside the porch in the sun into the porch, not sure if he saw me or was just flying fast because he was pissed off, but obviously I went back inside. Now I can see him out there buzzing around everything on the porch, every little crack and crevice, but in particular the punching bags, looking for the SOB that did this to his nest.

So, that is a long way to get to my question - how long can these little fuckers remember things like hate and rage and revenge rape? Obviously I want to go back outside to continue my workout ASAP. But like hell if I'm going to let that fucker sting me.

Thanks.

 

[Captante]

Now you've gone and raped a wasp?

 

[Iron Woode]

posting in a saltynuts thread.

 

[Red Squirrel]

The key is to make sure the wasp does not have a chance to be pissed off. Turns out a weed whacker works wonders to completely decimate a nest before they even know what's going on. I had one on my house the other day, it's gone now.

 

[JPS35]

The answer is n+1

 

[sandorski]

You made a friend for Life. Sometimes the best Defense is a good Offense.

 

[Spacehead]

In Salty's mind: "Standard workout with Liston-like jabs and Tyson hooks and uppercuts."

In reality:




Seriously though, I've heard that wasps are the elephants of the insect world. You might have to move.

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

The daubers are stupid. They act on vibration and disruption. I've been working on stuff and they'll fly in and out of their hole like I wasn't there.

Now THESE demons on the other hand .....








They'll chase you down just for getting too close. I've also seen them chase Hummingbirds off the feeders.

 

[Captante]

The daubers are stupid. They act on vibration and disruption. I've been working on stuff and they'll fly in and out of their hole like I wasn't there.

Now THESE demons on the other hand .....








They'll chase you down just for getting too close. I've also seen them chase Hummingbirds off the feeders.

IME although solitary wasps DO pack quite a wallop of a sting if you piss them off and they nail you, it usually takes something major like poking at/stepping on their nest to piss them off.

Any kind of large hive/nest-dwelling wasp OTOH including plain old everyday Yellowjackets is going to come after you balls to the wall and sting the $hit out of you if you upset them.

Those guys are just what they look like... aggressive predators. In fact despite their (usually) nasty attitude they're mostly beneficial in terms of preying on pest-insects.

 

[Tsinni Dave]

how long can these little fuckers remember things like hate and rage and revenge rape?

If you raped and then revenge raped any goddamn bug I hope it becomes DNA level revenge hardwired into them. They saw you. They know you. You have so many orifices. So. Many. Orifices..

 

[Torn Mind]

You've got many bad romances, Salty. Sometimes, you need a Psycho, Vertigo stick.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

I wasn't even aware mud daubers even stung. I've ignored every wasp I've ever encountered and the only time I've been stung by something that flew was from stepping on a honeybee.

Yellow jackets in fall can burn in hell though, those stupid bastards will fight you over every flower left. Still never been stung by one.

 

[shortylickens]

WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU???

 

[pcgeek11]

Dirt Daubers are very passive. I have often knocked their nest off the wall while they were right there next to it.

Try that with a hornet nest, Nope, I don't have a death wish.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

Dirt Daubers are very passive. I have often knocked their nest off the wall while they were right there next to it.

Try that with a hornet nest, Nope, I don't have a death wish.

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We had a bald hornet nest on a tree on our property a few years back, damn near walked face first into the thing while inspecting our trees. Nice fellas, kept the flies at bay. Very calm too, all things considered.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

Every summer I buy a pack of like... 6 of these cans.

I spray the ever living fuck out of any and all of them anytime I'm outside. They rampantly build their stupid nests around my front door and back door, and then they hover around the general areas of my yard all the time.

Go build your shit ANYWHERE else and I won't care... but when you build them by my front door, that we literally have to walk through EVERY time we go outside - you can obviously tell why it might piss me off to hear you buzzing around me when I'm not actively trying to find them.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

Every summer I buy a pack of like... 6 of these cans.

I spray the ever living fuck out of any and all of them anytime I'm outside. They rampantly build their stupid nests around my front door and back door, and then they hover around the general areas of my yard all the time.

Go build your shit ANYWHERE else and I won't care... but when you build them by my front door, that we literally have to walk through EVERY time we go outside - you can obviously tell why it might piss me off to hear you buzzing around me when I'm not actively trying to find them.

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Fun fact, if you permit one to build on the property somewhere, they generally keep any other nests from being built within 100' or so. If you leave the dead nests too, they sometimes prevent new ones from being built nearby (I've had less luck with that). You can also put up false nests in protected areas that don't get rain, they work well too.

 

[Captante]

One summer we had a huge hornets nest (like 3 basketballs!) on the outside-eve of the garage right outside the window of the dispatch office.

It got to the point that they were buzzing around every outdoor light all night long and drivers were refusing to come into the office for fear of getting stung. (they actually were not very aggressive)

Over the course of a week I literally emptied 4 large spray-cans of Black Flag Wasp and Hornet killer into that nest... it didn't even slow them down! Finally the boss rented a power-washer and late one night he took it out... it was war!



The next day there were like 1000 dead HUGE white-face hornets all over the driveway (and a few live ones still flying around) surrounded by huge chunks of smashed nest.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

Fun fact, if you permit one to build on the property somewhere, they generally keep any other nests from being built within 100' or so. If you leave the dead nests too, they sometimes prevent new ones from being built nearby (I've had less luck with that). You can also put up false nests in protected areas that don't get rain, they work well too.

Hah! I wish man.

Here is what I have in one corner of my front porch alone, all from this year.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

Hah! I wish man.

Here is what I have in one corner of my front porch alone, all from this year.

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So mud daubers are different, they don't build nests perse as they are solitary. Those are basically inert objects until spring, you can ignore them, and tear them apart in mid spring.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

So mud daubers are different, they don't build nests perse as they are solitary. Those are basically inert objects until spring, you can ignore them, and tear them apart in mid spring.

Heh, they all sting, so I don't really care. Though some might be more aggressive than others, I believe in equality.

 

[Red Squirrel]

One summer we had a huge hornets nest (like 3 basketballs!) on the outside-eve of the garage right outside the window of the dispatch office.

It got to the point that they were buzzing around every outdoor light all night long and drivers were refusing to come into the office for fear of getting stung. (they actually were not very aggressive)

Over the course of a week I literally emptied 4 large spray-cans of Black Flag Wasp and Hornet killer into that nest... it didn't even slow them down! Finally the boss rented a power-washer and late one night he took it out... it was war!



The next day there were like 1000 dead HUGE white-face hornets all over the driveway (and a few live ones still flying around) surrounded by huge chunks of smashed nest.

Oh man that sounds like a fun time lol.

 

[Iron Woode]

baldfaced hornet nest that was on my garage back in 2008:

 

[igor_kavinski]

Saw the movie "Mr. Holmes". He hates wasps coz they hurt his bees. One wasp can kill as many as 40 bees in a single session. In the end, the wasps got burnt. Served them right.

 

[pcgeek11]

We had a bald hornet nest on a tree on our property a few years back, damn near walked face first into the thing while inspecting our trees. Nice fellas, kept the flies at bay. Very calm too, all things considered.

They are OK as long as they don't see you as a threat.... Then all hell breaks loose.