How long can play games on playable fps with Asus MAXIMUS VI GENE + i5-4670k.

[Arian1]

hello guys.
I m new on this website &this is my first post.
I was planning to buy MAXIMUS VI GENE
+ i5-4670k. I have question about it, that
how long it can play games on playable
fps.? I means Will it works atleast 5years?
I Will not oc for least 3years, but I love
features of VI GENE mobo so i m buying
this mobo. I Will use 4gb 1600mhz ram
and Nvidia geforce 8400gs for now,
budget problem . but I Will but a new
GPU after some time and a one more 4gb
1600mhz ram. My monitor is AOC 19"
1366 X 768. what you think guys Is it
worth or not.?
I have one more idea. buy xbox 360 for
gaming & a AMD FX 6300 + Asus M5A97
mobo & use my old ram 1333mhz 2gb
and HDD 1tb for my school work.
what you think guys.?

 

[skipsneeky2]

Overclocking motherboard,running a 8400gs and not planning to overclock for a while.....cheaper board like around $100 max is what i would spend then take the $110 saved,drop in a 7750 or gtx650 non ti and call it a day.

 

[skipsneeky2]

Here is a board that will overclock your i5 and its $100 with free shipping.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813130695

Spend the savings of $110 on your 7750/gtx650 non ti gpu and call it a day and go with 8gb of ram....

 

[SPBHM]

8400GS...

that's... pretty bad...

the integrated graphics from the i5 is MUCH better... 8400GS is probably only comparable to the old HD2000...

you should buy something else, get a more balanced PC... I don't like the idea of using APUs for gaming, but in you case going for a 5800K or something would be a huge upgrade in terms of graphics performance...

but if you are serious about gaming you should start planing your build with a decent VGA, like a 650 Ti boost or 7850.


Xbox 360 is to old for me to recommend... the new xbox is going to be released in what, 3 months or so?

 

[AtenRa]

I dont know if you really need that high CPU performance but for the resolution you have (1366x768) i would get an FM2+ motherboard (ASUS A88XM-A should be available soon) with quad core A10-6800K and 8GB of 2400MHz RAM.
With this APU and that resolution, will be able to play all games today at exeptional Image Quality settings (depending on the Game) and next year you should be able to even upgrade the APU to Kaveri (GCN).

If you really want/need to buy the Core i5 4670K then better get a cheaper board and a better GPU.

 

[NTMBK]

I dont know if you really need that high CPU performance but for the resolution you have (1366x768) i would get an FM2+ motherboard (ASUS A88XM-A should be available soon) with quad core A10-6800K and 8GB of 2400MHz RAM.
With this APU and that resolution, will be able to play all games today at exeptional Image Quality settings (depending on the Game) and next year you should be able to even upgrade the APU to Kaveri (GCN).

If you really want/need to buy the Core i5 4670K then better get a cheaper board and a better GPU.

Actually, I'd recommend his original plan- but use the integrated i5 graphics, instead of the 8400GS, and get 8GB of RAM instead of the 4GB + 8400GS.

He wants a rig with longevity, so spending as much as he can on the CPU actually makes sense- it's the hardest part to replace. You can always drop in a better GPU 3-5 years down the line- look at how many people still get by on a Q6600.

EDIT: Quick bit of evidence that the 8400GS will actually reduce performance. Take a look at this benchmark:

The tablet version of Intel's HD4000 in the Surface Pro (i.e. at a lower clock speed than the desktop one) beats the 8500 GT quite handily. The 8400GS is slower than the 8500GT, and the HD4600 in your i5 is faster than the HD4000 in that test.

Don't use the 8400GS- integrated graphics have improved a lot lately!

 

[AtenRa]

Yes the HD4600 should be better than the 8400GS but, i wouldnt spend $450 (Maximus + Core i5) to play with the HD4600.

Unless he really needs that much more CPU performance for other applications.

FM2+ and A106-800K will be close to $250 and it will get higher GPU performance for gaming.

 

[NTMBK]

Yes the HD4600 should be better than the 8400GS but, i wouldnt spend $450 (Maximus + Core i5) to play with the HD4600.

Unless he really needs that much more CPU performance for other applications.

FM2+ and A106-800K will be close to $250 and it will get higher GPU performance for gaming.

No question about it, the A10 will give a much better experience right now. But the OP wants a PC that will last him for 5 years, and he wants to upgrade his GPU later on. In 5 years' time, the i5 plus a dGPU will hold up much better than the A10 plus a dGPU.

EDIT: And yes, I would personally go for a cheaper motherboard as well, but the OP seems very keen on that one. *shrug*

 

[jacktesterson]

A10-6800K or A10-5800K is perfect for you. Just buy 8GB of DDR3-1866 Memory to go with it.

 

[NTMBK]

A10-6800K or A10-5800K is perfect for you. Just buy 8GB of DDR3-1866 Memory to go with it.

In 5 years' time, the CPU part of that A10 will be seriously underpowered. It will not age as well as the 4670k.

 

[jacktesterson]

In 5 years' time, the CPU part of that A10 will be seriously underpowered. It will not age as well as the 4670k.

Setting a goal of 5 years is unrealistic for any CPU, really, but yes you are right.

I'm more concerned about GPU Power and Drivers - So he can at least enjoy some games now at 1/2 the cost.

 

[NTMBK]

Setting a goal of 5 years is unrealistic for any CPU, really, but yes you are right.

I'm more concerned about GPU Power and Drivers - So he can at least enjoy some games now at 1/2 the cost.

The Q6600 came out in 2007- it's still a decent CPU 6 years later. It all depends on what happens to the CPU market of course- if we get another Conroe Moment then it won't last 5 years, but if Intel keep up their current pace then it should be fine.

And to be honest, the HD4600 really isn't *that* bad a part- it's not that far behind the 6800k. At the OP's target resolution, it still gets a playable framerate in plenty of games:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7032/...-gpu-on-the-desktop-radeon-hd-8670d-hd-4600/2

I'd be willing to accept that as a stopgap until he can afford a discrete GPU to go with it.

EDIT: Yes, those benchmarks are with the i7 as opposed to the i5 so there is a little more CPU power- but lets face it, we can all agree that all those tests are GPU-limited.

 

[jacktesterson]

The Q6600 came out in 2007- it's still a decent CPU 6 years later. It all depends on what happens to the CPU market of course- if we get another Conroe Moment then it won't last 5 years, but if Intel keep up their current pace then it should be fine.

And to be honest, the HD4600 really isn't *that* bad a part- it's not that far behind the 6800k. At the OP's target resolution, it still gets a playable framerate in plenty of games:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7032/...-gpu-on-the-desktop-radeon-hd-8670d-hd-4600/2

I'd be willing to accept that as a stopgap until he can afford a discrete GPU to go with it.

EDIT: Yes, those benchmarks are with the i7 as opposed to the i5 so there is a little more CPU power- but lets face it, we can all agree that all those tests are GPU-limited.

The A10's can overclock a lot though - something that chart doesn't show. Not to mention AMD's GPU drivers are much better compared to Intels.

My A10-5800K system runs @ 4.4 GHz with the GPU at 11xx MHz (Forget the exact amount) with DDR3 1866 Memory running @ 2133 speeds. This is with a $20 cooler I had laying around. The A10-6800k's can even go higher.

Anyways, not arguing, just saying, lots of free performance from O/Cing the A10's GPU wise.

 

[AtenRa]

Well, most of current DX-11 games are unplayable at 1366x768 with the HD4600 unless you lower completely the IQ settings to the bottom.
If he is planing to get a new GPU soon, say in two three months then the Core i5 4670K will be fine.
But if he is planing to get the GPU next year then better get the FM2+ with the A10-6800K and upgrade next year to Kaveri (he will not need a higher-end GPU for that resolution) and he will get a nice CPU performance boost as well.
Not to mention he will be able to Play all current DX-11 games today at almost half the price.

 

[Arian1]

A10-6800K or A10-5800K is perfect for you. Just buy 8GB of DDR3-1866 Memory to go with it.

hii
I m from India bro which& here is very very difficult to find 1866mhz ram.

 

[Arian1]

8400GS...

that's... pretty bad...

the integrated graphics from the i5 is MUCH better... 8400GS is probably only comparable to the old HD2000...

you should buy something else, get a more balanced PC... I don't like the idea of using APUs for gaming, but in you case going for a 5800K or something would be a huge upgrade in terms of graphics performance...

but if you are serious about gaming you should start planing your build with a decent VGA, like a 650 Ti boost or 7850.


Xbox 360 is to old for me to recommend... the new xbox is going to be released in what, 3 months or so?

I will buy gtx 760 in few months.

 

[AtenRa]

hii
I m from India bro which& here is very very difficult to find 1866mhz ram.

http://www.kingston.com/en/wheretobuy

 

[AtenRa]

I will buy gtx 760 in few months.

OK then, go with the Core i5, but if you planing on playing BF3,BF4 MP better get the Core i7 4770K.

 

[jacktesterson]

I will buy gtx 760 in few months.

I would look at no less than the i5 or FX-6300 then. Honestly, even the A10-6800K is enough for most games @ 1080p with a 760 and still gives you some GPU power now.

The i5 would give you a built in GPU for now though compared to the FX-6300


Good luck!

 

[Arian1]

everyone is saying cheaper mobo. so what is your suggestion to get a cheaper mobo.?

 

[Arian1]

OK then, go with the Core i5, but if you planing on playing BF3,BF4 MP better get the Core i7 4770K.

I don't want to play multiplayer. I always play singleplayer.
but I want to play every game like BF4, Batman Arkham Origin , etc....

 

[NTMBK]

I don't want to play multiplayer. I always play singleplayer.
but I want to play every game like BF4, Batman Arkham Origin , etc....

It may be worth going for the 4770k, if you want a PC to last 5 years.

The 4770k has 8 threads to use, as it has Hyperthreading (putting 2 threads on each core). The new consoles also have 8 threads, so it is likely that new game engines will use 8 threads and that Hyperthreading will be useful.

Of course, the price increase over the 4670k is very large for this performance increase, and you may not want to pay that much more- which is understandable. In the UK the 4770k is almost 50% more expensive than the 4670k- and it is certainly not almost 50% faster!

 

[Arian1]

It may be worth going for the 4770k, if you want a PC to last 5 years.

The 4770k has 8 threads to use, as it has Hyperthreading (putting 2 threads on each core). The new consoles also have 8 threads, so it is likely that new game engines will use 8 threads and that Hyperthreading will be useful.

Of course, the price increase over the 4670k is very large for this performance increase, and you may not want to pay that much more- which is understandable. In the UK the 4770k is almost 50% more expensive than the 4670k- and it is certainly not almost 50% faster!

then what is your suggestion bro..? which one I have to choose.? can i5-4670k stand in battle in next 5 years. if not then how many years it can work.?

 

[sniffin]

It may be worth going for the 4770k, if you want a PC to last 5 years.

The 4770k has 8 threads to use, as it has Hyperthreading (putting 2 threads on each core). The new consoles also have 8 threads, so it is likely that new game engines will use 8 threads and that Hyperthreading will be useful.

Of course, the price increase over the 4670k is very large for this performance increase, and you may not want to pay that much more- which is understandable. In the UK the 4770k is almost 50% more expensive than the 4670k- and it is certainly not almost 50% faster!

The i7 represents terrible value for money compared to the i5. Anybody with budget restrictions such as the OP is doing themselves a disservice by going with an i7. It's a useless waste 99% of the time if you do everyday stuff and play games. The money he saves could go towards 1/2 a new i5 in the future.

 

[AtenRa]

I would get a cheaper Motherboard (ASUS Z87M-Plus) + the Core i7 4770K.