how long before china completely ruins the US.

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ctcsoft

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My question to all you intelligent folks, is How long before china ruins the US economy?

Pretty soon the US will be making nothing and everything will be done overseas. That means no jobs for hourly and salary workers. Big wig engineers are left without jobs because their manufacturing company is now gone.

I see the US going down the tubes fast. There should be a damn law on outsourcing.
 
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BigJ

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THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!!!!!!!!!! RUNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!

If you actually wanted an intelligent conversation, you'd elaborate much more on your ideas instead of posting flamebait in the OP.
 
CraKaJaX

CraKaJaX

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Everything is already made over seas. Go into Target and flip over any product, what does it say?
 
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Turin39789

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Originally posted by: paulxcook
Any specific event that prompted this?
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It was mentioned on the radio today that if things keep how they are now, China is expected to be the number one nation for exports by 2008.
 
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SpazzyChicken

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Originally posted by: CraKaJaX
Everything is already made over seas. Go into Target and flip over any product, what does it say?
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"You are so much better than the people who shop at Wal*Mart"
 
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mooglekit

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If you want the real answer to why this won't happen, think about a developing economy. As China develops industrially, their workers will (as US workers have before them) trend away from manufacturing to professional fields. As the workforce advances and the quality of life increases, wages and salary will increase (so long as the Chinese government doesn't artificially prevent it...) and the cost of goods for export increases and will, in the long run, find a balance.

Oh wait, this isn't P & N...I need a witty response...

OMGWTFLOLBBQ WE'RE BEING TAKEN OVER!!!!! :p
 
purbeast0

purbeast0

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considering we develop and even press the cd's from here at my work for our software.... i'm not too worried.
 
kranky

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I think within 10 years, we'll be suffering greatly as a result of China's rise to promenance. Once we no longer have the capability to manufacture durable goods, and are dependent on imports for the things we must have, watch those prices rise.

And we'll have no choice but to pay, since we won't be able to make them on our own.

China will dictate what things cost. That doesn't mean we'll be "ruined", since it serves China's interests for us to continue to buy billions of dollars worth of goods every month, but we'll be hurting.
 
jpeyton

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The coolest thing will be when China's industrial spies steal all our greatest designs and make cheaper versions of them. Then we'll see real savings!
 
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jlbenedict

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Originally posted by: kranky

China will dictate what things cost. That doesn't mean we'll be "ruined", since it serves China's interests for us to continue to buy billions of dollars worth of goods every month, but we'll be hurting.
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Once this happens, then we'll really begin to fund China's military on a serious scale.

This could be bad news in the future.

 
yllus

yllus

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Don't be an idiot.

It's not like North America is permanently losing the ability to "make stuff" on our own.

Nor is every manufacturing job on the continent in danger of moving.

Nor is manufacturing the be-all and end-all of hourly and salary workers; I sure as hell haven't tightened any bolts at work lately.

Nor is there any inherent right to those people to those jobs when they can be feasibly replaced at a lower cost overseas. And you hardly improve the situation by unbalancing the relationship between employees (who now have a noose around their bosses' neck, since they're all the HR they're able to get) and the employer. That just worked so well for GM, Ford and Chrysler.

Nor is the current situation permanent. As the rest of the world including China industrializes, their pay rates will come back up and in the end, manufacturing will be no less expensive to do locally as it is to do overseas.
 
FoBoT

FoBoT

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thank you sully, as soon as the price of the imported stuff goes up too high, an enterprising north american will start making it again, when it becomes competitive to do so

i don't see the problem
 
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slsmnaz

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What's China going to do when their increasing need for healthcare (thanks the one baby/couple) or bad loans bankrupt the country?
 
Locut0s

Locut0s

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It's been inevitable for a long time. China's a country of a billion people all waking up to the realities, good and bad, of a capitalist system. They are manufacturing everything, they are pumping out degrees like there's no tomorrow, they all want what the US has and I can't blame them for wanting it. It might not just destroy the US but the world in the process, China along with India modernizing, but I can't blame them. They want it bad and they are going to get it.
 
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