How long after the election before we find out that the new president had not intention of keeping any promises?

[XZeroII]

Especially Obama. The guy is making Homer Simpson like promises (remember Garbage Commissioner Homer?). He's promising to cut our taxes (95% of us) and provide tons of extra services. I'll bet that after 6 months of his leadership, we'll be sitting in the same situation we are in now and he'll be blaming the fact that he hasn't accomplished anything on the Bush Administration.

You know things are bad when you are trying to decide who to elect to be the next president and all you can think of is that we're totally screwed no matter who is elected.

 

[Dr. Zaus]

Originally posted by: XZeroII
Especially Obama. The guy is making Homer Simpson like promises (remember Garbage Commissioner Homer?). He's promising to cut our taxes (95% of us) and provide tons of extra services. I'll bet that after 6 months of his leadership, we'll be sitting in the same situation we are in now and he'll be blaming the fact that he hasn't accomplished anything on the Bush Administration.

You know things are bad when you are trying to decide who to elect to be the next president and all you can think of is that we're totally screwed no matter who is elected.

Why do you think that his plan to "pay as you go", enabling some services by cutting others, isn't going to work?

 

[XZeroII]

Originally posted by: DixyCrat

Originally posted by: XZeroII
Especially Obama. The guy is making Homer Simpson like promises (remember Garbage Commissioner Homer?). He's promising to cut our taxes (95% of us) and provide tons of extra services. I'll bet that after 6 months of his leadership, we'll be sitting in the same situation we are in now and he'll be blaming the fact that he hasn't accomplished anything on the Bush Administration.

You know things are bad when you are trying to decide who to elect to be the next president and all you can think of is that we're totally screwed no matter who is elected.

Why do you think that his plan to "pay as you go", enabling some services by cutting others, isn't going to work?

hahahahahaha. This is the same bait that every single candidate has preached for decades. And every election year, people swallow it. In the last debate, the moderator specifically said that economists have looked at each of their plans and there is NO WAY that they can balance the budget without breaking campaign promises. When he asked Obama what he would cut, Obama just brought out the "pay as you go" line. He didn't mention a single cut. So either he is lying about what he is going to provide, or he is lying about "pay as you go". You can't have both.

Besides, "pay as you go" would send us into a depression just like in the 1930s. It's a horrible economic plan when things are bad. If we were riding the money train, then it would be alright.

 

[Dr. Zaus]

Originally posted by: XZeroII

Originally posted by: DixyCrat

Originally posted by: XZeroII
Especially Obama. The guy is making Homer Simpson like promises (remember Garbage Commissioner Homer?). He's promising to cut our taxes (95% of us) and provide tons of extra services. I'll bet that after 6 months of his leadership, we'll be sitting in the same situation we are in now and he'll be blaming the fact that he hasn't accomplished anything on the Bush Administration.

You know things are bad when you are trying to decide who to elect to be the next president and all you can think of is that we're totally screwed no matter who is elected.

Why do you think that his plan to "pay as you go", enabling some services by cutting others, isn't going to work?

hahahahahaha. This is the same bait that every single candidate has preached for decades. And every election year, people swallow it. In the last debate, the moderator specifically said that economists have looked at each of their plans and there is NO WAY that they can balance the budget without breaking campaign promises. When he asked Obama what he would cut, Obama just brought out the "pay as you go" line. He didn't mention a single cut. So either he is lying about what he is going to provide, or he is lying about "pay as you go". You can't have both.

Besides, "pay as you go" would send us into a depression just like in the 1930s. It's a horrible economic plan when things are bad. If we were riding the money train, then it would be alright.

... did I miss something where both candidates said they would balance the budget?

I don?t ever remember hearing Obama or even McCain say that their first, second, third or even fith priority is to have a balanced budget.

 

[techs]

How long after the election before we find out that the new president had not intention of keeping any promises?

Does the phrase "negative number" ring a bell?

 

[Pepsei]

can't you wait until he's elected ? i waited 5 years before i complained.... geez...

because according to the conservative friends that i have, you can't blame bush's first 4 years on him, it's the last president's fault.

 

[Jhhnn]

Six months? To reverse 30 years of relentless rightwing deception and looting from the top down?

Setting our expectations a little high, are we?

What we're seeing is just the beginning of an awakening, of a realization that Jimmy Carter was right about a lot of things, that the key to future prosperity is to make better use of the resources at our disposal, that there's a point of diminished returns in all things, whether that's energy production, offshoring manufacturing, or leveraging of financial resources...

It's the short sightedness exhibited in the OP that put us where we are, and it'll take a lot of patience and purpose to reverse the effects of it...

 

[Engineer]

Originally posted by: DixyCrat
I don?t ever remember hearing Obama or even McCain say that their first, second, third or even fith priority is to have a balanced budget.

I was listening to a McCain rally last week (during lunch was on CNN) and he stated that he would balance the budget by the end of his first term. I nearly fell out of my chair laughing.

 

[Dr. Zaus]

Originally posted by: Engineer

Originally posted by: DixyCrat
I don?t ever remember hearing Obama or even McCain say that their first, second, third or even fith priority is to have a balanced budget.

I was listening to a McCain rally last week (during lunch was on CNN) and he stated that he would balance the budget by the end of his first term. I nearly fell out of my chair laughing.

wow... just... wow....

do you have any means of showing documentation of this?

 

[Engineer]

Originally posted by: DixyCrat

Originally posted by: Engineer

Originally posted by: DixyCrat
I don?t ever remember hearing Obama or even McCain say that their first, second, third or even fith priority is to have a balanced budget.

I was listening to a McCain rally last week (during lunch was on CNN) and he stated that he would balance the budget by the end of his first term. I nearly fell out of my chair laughing.

wow... just... wow....

do you have any means of showing documentation of this?

Edit #2: Play the video at the bottom of his own page. It "still" states he will balance the budget by 2013, lol.

I don't know if CNN has archives of their shows or not. I don't sit in the room with the television but I can hear it. I also don't know whether it was Headline News or CNN but I suspect it was regular CNN. Nor do I remember what day it was. He stated that he would VETO every single bill that contained any pork spending, freeze all spending hikes except absolutely essential and slash every single program's pork and that he and Palin would balance the federal budget by the end of his first term, if elected. I'll see if I can find anything, but not sure where to start.

I found an old (July) news story on it but no video yet.

The news story basically reiterates what he said in the rally last week.

Edit #1: From the looks of it, he backed away from an April pledge to balance the budget by the end of his first term, and then in July, pledged again to balance the budget by 2013 (end of his first term). I still haven't seen the recent rally pledge.

 

[brencat]

Originally posted by: Jhhnn
What we're seeing is just the beginning of an awakening, of a realization that Jimmy Carter was right about a lot of things...

You mean like when there's an oil shortage, suggest your citizens use less of it and prolong the suffering while we wait 15+ years for a viable alternative?

If an Obama presidency starts to resemble Jimmy Carter's in any way, I'm afraid we're all doomed.

 

[nageov3t]

Obama doesn't break promises, people simply don't have the intellectual capacity to understand what he promised in the first place.