how long after I grind coffee beans does it take to get stale

jaedaliu

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It starts right away. he grinding (careful crushing process) greatly increases the surface area of the coffee, thus allowing oxygen to attack.

Google tells me 2-3 days or 4-5 months. With your machine, anything longer than overnight is silly.
 

_Rick_

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You get a grinder to grind the portion of coffee you wish to brew. Any left overs might as well be thrown away.
 

skull

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I'm drinking some 2 year old pre-ground kona coffee now because I ran out of folgers. Tastes better now then it did 2 years ago.
 

KB

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I have a grinder and have brewed grounds 3 weeks later with no noticiable loss of flavor. Just put any extra in a small ari-tight continer.
 

brainhulk

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I'm drinking some 2 year old pre-ground kona coffee now because I ran out of folgers. Tastes better now then it did 2 years ago.

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I'm drinking some 2 year old pre-ground kona coffee now because I ran out of folgers. Tastes better now then it did 2 years ago.
Really? Trolling a coffee thread?

The most common thing I hear is the rule of "2".

2 days for grounds
2 weeks for roasted
2 months for unroasted

Some of the coffee-nati will tell you it's two hours for grounds, but I think that's a bit extreme.
 

ch33zw1z

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grind it, brew it, extra grounds go in the garbage...

that being said, make the measurements with who beans instead of grounds

for me:

2 cups of water = 1/8 cup whole beans
4 cups of water = 1/4 cup whole beans

etc...
 

nageov3t

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I find that one heaping tablespoon of whole beans usually adds up to about one regular tablespoon of grounds... so I just measure accordingly before grinding up my morning coffee. no leftover grounds.
 

BurnItDwn

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I have the same grinder. I have a 10 cup coffee maker. Usually we just turn the timer dial to 6 or 7 and then dump the fresh grounds into my coffee pot. Less than 5 minutes between grind and brew ...

Any more than 6 or 7, and my coffee maker tends to clog.
 

norseamd

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do you leave them out and let them sit in the air

or do you put them in a container and close the lid
 

destrekor

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Really? Trolling a coffee thread?

The most common thing I hear is the rule of "2".

2 days for grounds
2 weeks for roasted
2 months for unroasted

Some of the coffee-nati will tell you it's two hours for grounds, but I think that's a bit extreme.

I'd fall under that bolded bit if I was invested in the whole process. Once I have a place with room, my espresso machine and grinder will be brought back out. I'll either get a professional coffee roaster, or I'll go with a specific style of hot-air popcorn popper again (last popper one got left behind or thrown out after moving... I think).

Never grind until ready, and only grind what you will brew basically right then.

Fresh roasted beans at first get a slight bit of air. Well, a lot of air while they cool to room temp, then a little bit of air (like a mason jar with holes in the seal). After roughly 48 hours of degassing, it's usually good to start sealing it up. If you have any storage with one-way valves, permanently storing in this is best - but if not, occasionally opening a sealed mason jar will be enough to let air out, but if that's the only option, the first two or three days should definitely not be fully sealed.

After roasting (not factoring in degassing time), the whole beans are usually good for between 7-14 days (peak). They can be good to consume for much longer, don't forget that. You get into pre-ground, two-pound tub territory if you start waiting too long though, which, imho, removes the entire point of doing it yourself.

You really don't want to let grounds sit, I wouldn't even recommend two hours - I recommend grind and brew: only grind what you will brew right then and there, seal the rest. Excess grounds? Measure correctly to minimize how much you throw away.


That said - there really is not one size fits all answer. Well, for ground coffee, I'd argue it always fits: don't let grounds sit exposed.
For roast beans (and green/unroasted beans - sealed properly I've heard they can last awhile, longer than 2 months at least), peak flavor could be a few days after roast date, a week after roast date, or perhaps 10-12 days after roast date. This also depends on the desired flavor, but more than anything, on the individual beans, the roast level, and of course environment/storage.

If you buy a fresh roast, or roast yourself, I'd sample with fresh grinds and take notes of each day. You might find your preferred flavor from that roast peaks around a certain time.
 

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You guys are light years ahead of me,.. I've got K-Cups,... and dammit, the French Vanilla Hazelnut is GODLY.
 

smackababy

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As soon as you grind it, you've ruined it. Real coffee drinkers boil the beans and scald their faces with the juice!
 

Zenmervolt

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I'm drinking some 2 year old pre-ground kona coffee now because I ran out of folgers. Tastes better now then it did 2 years ago.

This. I didn't realize coffee could even get stale. I thought it was like molasses or honey.

ZV
 

JulesMaximus

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I didn't realize coffee could even get stale.

ZV

It does, especially if you bought it already ground. Ideally you want to use the beans within a few days of roasting and immediately after grinding but you can store fresh roasted whole bean coffee for longer in an airtight container... not in the freezer.

I thought it was like molasses or honey.

ZV

It isn't.
 
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tHa ShIzNiT

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This. I didn't realize coffee could even get stale. I thought it was like molasses or honey.

ZV

Surely, you jest.

But seriously...I don't notice much of a difference between freshly ground and sitting there for 2+ days or however long. I like the taste of good fresh coffee but I take what I can get.
 

DT4K

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I'm sure that a couple days won't make much difference and even after months, it will still taste fine to some people.

But if you are going to take the step of buying a grinder and grinding your own beans, you might as well grind them fresh each day and only do the amount you need for each pot. It's not like it's a big time consuming task and that way you get the full benefit of grinding your own and getting the freshest flavor.
 

DT4K

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Not really. I'm just finishing up the last bits of a nearly year-old bucket of Folgers and it still tastes just fine to me.

I'm sure there are people who can tell the difference though.

ZV

That clears up the confusion.
You said "coffee" in your first post, when you really meant Folgers.

Folgers starts off so bad that I doubt any aging and staleness can really make it taste any worse.
 
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I'm sure that a couple days won't make much difference and even after months, it will still taste fine to some people.

But if you are going to take the step of buying a grinder and grinding your own beans, you might as well grind them fresh each day and only do the amount you need for each pot. It's not like it's a big time consuming task and that way you get the full benefit of grinding your own and getting the freshest flavor.
I grind them every night and set the timer so I can stagger downstairs in the morning and drink my happy juice.
 

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Have Penn and Teller done a "Bullshit" episode on coffee snobs? I think it'd be funny to serve people a bunch of different "styles" of coffee in a tasting, only to reveal it's all Folgers and see if anybody noticed.

I can't remember if it was P&T, but I remember a test where somebody added red food coloring to white wine and served it as red. All the wine lovers were giving it typical red wine descriptions. It was funny
 

smackababy

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That clears up the confusion.
You said "coffee" in your first post, when you really meant Folgers.

Folgers starts off so bad that I doubt any aging and staleness can really make it taste any worse.

Regardless of "quality", every bag of ground coffee I've purchased has set merely folded over and with a rubber band to hold it "closed" for months and I don't taste any difference. And, I drink it black, so I am not getting diluted sugar-milk drink either.