How is your family f%@# up? (your parents).

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Locut0s

Lifer
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Wow Dixy I'm going to read that very carefully, but that's too long for tonight. Thanks for contributing though!!
 

HamburgerBoy

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Three out of four of my grandparents are pretty weird (there's an "Obama is the antichrist!" type, a narcissistic alcoholic, and a bipolar wackjob that throws tantrums and runs away from home like a child) and a lot of my uncles and aunts are quirky as well, but my parents are actually normal.
 

brainhulk

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Three out of four of my grandparents are pretty weird (there's an "Obama is the antichrist!" type, a narcissistic alcoholic, and a bipolar wackjob that throws tantrums and runs away from home like a child) and a lot of my uncles and aunts are quirky as well, but my parents are actually normal.

so it looks like the crazy is skipping generations huh?
 

dawp

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Haha. Not sure if srs. I get you mixed up with Oldsmoboat and I thought it'd be the basement for keeping people. =)

most likely ashes, I have my ex-mother-in-law in my garage. I had a better relationship with her than I did with with my ex-wife. How I got them I'd rather not go in to, lets just leave it that I was pestered my my ex to let her stay with me when her S.O. died of lung cancer, leaving her unable to to pay her rent.
 

SandEagle

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another whinefest by the OP. imagine how your mom would feel if she found out what you wrote. keep family problems within the family.
 

nanette1985

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My mom was born filthy rich but lost everything, and I mean everything, in the depression - she had a really sad time. She was really wacko about money. She was a history teacher. I'm the 5th of 6 kids and I barely remember her doing anything motherly - she was obsessed by historical trivia and was always dealing with that. Our summer vacations consisted of driving somewhere obscure and poking around cemeteries, moldy old houses and so on. She wrote books but never published anything; she was a severe hoarder and everything she accumulated rotted away by the time she died and we could finally get into the house. She lived in la-la-land but on the rare times she surfaced and chatted with us, she was sweet and funny.

My father was a jazz pianist. His family is Mennonite, he grew up on the farm, and his parents insisted that he get some good job training before he went into the music biz, so he had a degree in accounting. He never worked in accounting. His particular bunch of Mennonites thought music was sinful; once he left for his music career, he never returned to them, never again saw his parents, cousins etc. We kids spent tons of time with that family, though.

Father died when I was a teenager, cancer. Mother became ill with liver problems (no, she never drank) and never really recovered, she was sick for the last 20-25 years of her life, she spent most of that time in long-term care.

Just another ordinary family.

P.S. they're dead, so they won't object to my posting this. You notice I didn't say anything about my 5 siblings . . .
 
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Zebo

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My parents are pretty normal though my dad is a mean mofo sometimes. Like still gets in bar fights at 70. But we all got one really messed up person in the family and I got two. Two of my brothers out of 4. One when he's not in prison receives SSDI for bipolar and has like 9 kids with various welfare mothers when he gets out he has sex till noon with other losers and does drugs all night. Another is like 31 and has never had a W2. Just lives off my parents. These were the babies, given everything and turned it to shit.
 
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pontifex

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locutOs has posted this at least once before. not sure why the need to post again?
 
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I prefer the attic and occasionally i wear a wig, a robe and talk with a funny voice.

Besides that, my folks are/where alright.
 
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iGas

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Every family have dirty laundry in one way or the other, however we should be glad that he had/have parents that gave us life and sustenance.

That said we shouldn't bemoan our problems, because we they are so insignificant compare to the majority of the world populous.

Daughter of ‘Dirty War,’ Raised by Man Who Killed Her Parents

By ALEXEI BARRIONUEVO
Published: October 8, 2011

BUENOS AIRES — Victoria Montenegro recalls a childhood filled with chilling dinnertime discussions. Lt. Col. Hernán Tetzlaff, the head of the family, would recount military operations he had taken part in where “subversives” had been tortured or killed. The discussions often ended with his “slamming his gun on the table,” she said.

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The Mothers of the Plaza de Mayo, who lost children during Argentina's military dictatorship, protesting in Buenos Aires in 1977.
It took an incessant search by a human rights group, a DNA match and almost a decade of overcoming denial for Ms. Montenegro, 35, to realize that Colonel Tetzlaff was, in fact, not her father — nor the hero he portrayed himself to be.

Instead, he was the man responsible for murdering her real parents and illegally taking her as his own child, she said.

He confessed to her what he had done in 2000, Ms. Montenegro said. But it was not until she testified at a trial here last spring that she finally came to grips with her past, shedding once and for all the name that Colonel Tetzlaff and his wife had given her — María Sol — after falsifying her birth records.

The trial, in the final phase of hearing testimony, could prove for the first time that the nation’s top military leaders engaged in a systematic plan to steal babies from perceived enemies of the government.

Jorge Rafael Videla, who led the military during Argentina’s dictatorship, stands accused of leading the effort to take babies from mothers in clandestine detention centers and give them to military or security officials, or even to third parties, on the condition that the new parents hide the true identities. Mr. Videla is one of 11 officials on trial for 35 acts of illegal appropriation of minors.

The trial is also revealing the complicity of civilians, including judges and officials of the Roman Catholic Church.

The abduction of an estimated 500 babies was one of the most traumatic chapters of the military dictatorship that ruled Argentina from 1976 to 1983. The frantic effort by mothers and grandmothers to locate their missing children has never let up. It was the one issue that civilian presidents elected after 1983 did not excuse the military for, even as amnesty was granted for other “dirty war” crimes.

“Even the many Argentines who considered the amnesty a necessary evil were unwilling to forgive the military for this,” said José Miguel Vivanco, the Americas director for Human Rights Watch.

In Latin America, the baby thefts were largely unique to Argentina’s dictatorship, Mr. Vivanco said. There was no such effort in neighboring Chile’s 17-year dictatorship.

One notable difference was the role of the Catholic Church. In Argentina the church largely supported the military government, while in Chile it confronted the government of Gen. Augusto Pinochet and sought to expose its human rights crimes, Mr. Vivanco said.

Priests and bishops in Argentina justified their support of the government on national security concerns, and defended the taking of children as a way to ensure they were not “contaminated” by leftist enemies of the military, said Adolfo Pérez Esquivel, a Nobel Prize-winning human rights advocate who has investigated dozens of disappearances and testified at the trial last month.

Ms. Montenegro contended: “They thought they were doing something Christian to baptize us and give us the chance to be better people than our parents. They thought and felt they were saving our lives.”

Church officials in Argentina and at the Vatican declined to answer questions about their knowledge of or involvement in the covert adoptions.

For many years, the search for the missing children was largely futile. But that has changed in the past decade thanks to more government support, advanced forensic technology and a growing genetic data bank from years of testing. The latest adoptee to recover her real identity, Laura Reinhold Siver, brought the total number of recoveries to 105 in August.

Still, the process of accepting the truth can be long and tortuous. For years, Ms. Montenegro rejected efforts by officials and advocates to discover her true identity. From a young age, she received a “strong ideological education” from Colonel Tetzlaff, an army officer at a secret detention center.

If she picked up a flier from leftists on the street, “he would sit me down for hours to tell me what the subversives had done to Argentina,” she said.

He took her along to a detention center where he spent hours discussing military operations with his fellow officers, “how they had killed people, tortured them,” she said.

“I grew up thinking that in Argentina there had been a war, and that our soldiers had gone to war to guarantee the democracy,” she said. “And that there were no disappeared people, that it was all a lie.”

She said he did not allow her to see movies about the “dirty war,” including “The Official Story,” the 1985 film about an upper-middle-class couple raising a girl taken from a family that was disappeared.

In 1992, when she was 15, Colonel Tetzlaff was detained briefly on suspicion of baby stealing. Five years later, a court informed Ms. Montenegro that she was not the biological child of Colonel Tetzlaff and his wife, she said.

“I was still convinced it was all a lie,” she said.

By 2000, Ms. Montenegro still believed her mission was to keep Colonel Tetzlaff out of prison. But she relented and gave a DNA sample. A judge then delivered jarring news: the test confirmed that she was the biological child of Hilda and Roque Montenegro, who had been active in the resistance. She learned that she and the Montenegros had been kidnapped when she was 13 days old.

At a restaurant over dinner, Colonel Tetzlaff confessed to Ms. Montenegro and her husband: He had headed the operation in which the Montenegros were tortured and killed, and had taken her in May 1976, when she was 4 months old.

“I can’t bear to say any more,” she said, choking up at the memory of the dinner.

A court convicted Colonel Tetzlaff in 2001 of illegally appropriating Ms. Montenegro. He went to prison, and Ms. Montenegro, still believing his actions during the dictatorship had been justified, visited him weekly until his death in 2003.

Slowly, she got to know her biological parents’ family.

“This was a process; it wasn’t one moment or one day when you erase everything and begin again,” she said. “You are not a machine that can be reset and restarted.”

It fell to her to tell her three sons that Colonel Tetzlaff was not the man they thought he was.

“He told them that their grandfather was a brave soldier, and I had to tell them that their grandfather was a murderer,” she said.

When she testified at the trial, she used her original name, Victoria, for the first time. “It was very liberating,” she said.

She says she still does not hate the Tetzlaffs. But “the heart doesn’t kidnap you, it doesn’t hide you, it doesn’t hurt you, it doesn’t lie to you all of your life,” she said. “Love is something else.”

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Victoria Montenegro was abducted as a newborn by a military colonel. She testified last spring in the trial over baby thefts.
 

RbSX

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Food poisoning? Were you eating cantaloupe like there was no tomorrow or something. :confused: Actually food poisoning is no joke I know, my father got serious food poisoning on a trip to china in the 90s we all thought at the time that there was a change he could die! This was from improperly cooked seafood. D:

Wait what you went out partying last night while still feeling lingering sickness from food poisoning? Hope it was worth it. :awe:

I got laid.

Enough said.
 

Locut0s

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another whinefest by the OP. imagine how your mom would feel if she found out what you wrote. keep family problems within the family.

I don't describe anything here that's really very bad. Many others have far worse stories to tell of their parents. And mine are very loving. It's not like this is dirty laundry exactly it's just a general overview. :rolleyes:
 

RbSX

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I don't describe anything here that's really very bad. Many others have far worse stories to tell of their parents. And mine are very loving. It's not like this is dirty laundry exactly it's just a general overview. :rolleyes:

I think what he's alluding to more is that you need to shut the fuck up with your bitching threads and do something about it so that you don't have anything to bitch about.
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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There is hope. My mother suffered from undiagnosed/untreated manic depressive episodes my whole life until my twenties. She could literally yell at you for three days straight about the same incident that set her off and then curse you for making her hoarse. BUT, she got help eventually and she got better. She became a wonderful mother and grandparent. The good parts of her insanity was to create a determination within myself to never let my irrational side affect my loved ones.

The craziness also aided my efforts to educate myself. Not wanting to be at home, I spent a great deal of time in libraries, museums and, school.
 

vi edit

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My parents are very normal, hard working, low drama people. Inlaws on the other hand are hording hermits with some other whacky personality traits.
 

Locut0s

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I think what he's alluding to more is that you need to shut the fuck up with your bitching threads and do something about it so that you don't have anything to bitch about.

I don't really feel I'm bitching in this thread really. The how fucked up is your family thing is more just descriptive than anything. I just want to hear some stories of others. But, whatever. :rolleyes:
 

RbSX

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I don't really feel I'm bitching in this thread really. The how fucked up is your family thing is more just descriptive than anything. I just want to hear some stories of others. But, whatever. :rolleyes:

You used it as yet another platform to ventilate about your woe is me story.
 

Locut0s

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You used it as yet another platform to ventilate about your woe is me story.

That wasn't the intention of the thread when I posted it. Not until others brought it into the thread. The point was just to hear about dysfunctional families. Everyone's family is dysfunctional to some degree, I'm not saying woe is me my family is fucked up boo hoo. I'm saying here's how my family is quirky, off, now how is yours.
 

Locut0s

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DixyCrat by DixyCrat

My dad's name is DixyCrat(56 years old), my name is DixyCrat(28yo), my son is named DixyCrat(1).

SNIP

Wow that's quite a lite story. I'm sorry to hear how bad things were, but also glad that good things have come of it in the end. Very good writing BTW!
 

Locut0s

Lifer
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My mom was born filthy rich but lost everything, and I mean everything, in the depression - she had a really sad time. She was really wacko about money. She was a history teacher. I'm the 5th of 6 kids and I barely remember her doing anything motherly - she was obsessed by historical trivia and was always dealing with that. Our summer vacations consisted of driving somewhere obscure and poking around cemeteries, moldy old houses and so on. She wrote books but never published anything; she was a severe hoarder and everything she accumulated rotted away by the time she died and we could finally get into the house. She lived in la-la-land but on the rare times she surfaced and chatted with us, she was sweet and funny.

My father was a jazz pianist. His family is Mennonite, he grew up on the farm, and his parents insisted that he get some good job training before he went into the music biz, so he had a degree in accounting. He never worked in accounting. His particular bunch of Mennonites thought music was sinful; once he left for his music career, he never returned to them, never again saw his parents, cousins etc. We kids spent tons of time with that family, though.

Father died when I was a teenager, cancer. Mother became ill with liver problems (no, she never drank) and never really recovered, she was sick for the last 20-25 years of her life, she spent most of that time in long-term care.

Just another ordinary family.

P.S. they're dead, so they won't object to my posting this. You notice I didn't say anything about my 5 siblings . . .

I'm sorry to hear about the sad twists you faced. Though it sounds like you did have a great and loving family earlier on and good memories. That's what matters!