How is the gun ban in Chicago doing?

Discussion in 'Politics and News' started by Jeffg010, Jan 27, 2013.

  1. waggy

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  2. klinc

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    Bullshit the UK don't have the highest violent crime rate in the world. Unless you take 2 drunks beating each other up as a "violent crime".
     
  3. klinc

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    This is very true. Look at the murder rate! (from the most recent FBI UCR (2011))

    http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/table-6

    Chicago homicide rate: 6.8 per 100,000.

    Slaughter!

    I bet if we look to other cities with extremely strict gun control we will see similar problems. Hey, I hear NYC is very strict with guns, let's check their homicide rate:

    NYC homicide rate: 4.75 per 100,000.

    Hmmm.

    Hey, I hear Texas loves guns and everyone's armed. I wonder what Houston's homicide rate is? Probably low.

    Houston homicide rate: 5.4 per 100,000. (note, 2011 was an abnormally low year, homicides increased again significantly in 2012)

    Hmm. Well maybe they don't have enough guns. Arizonans love guns!

    Phoenix homicide rate: 4.9 per 100,000.

    Hmm.

    Hey, in Florida you can Stand Your Ground (TM)! I hear that's great for stopping criminals.

    Miami/Ft. Lauderdale homicide rate: 6.1 per 100,000.

    Hmm.

    I've got an idea, how about we realize that trying to make up reasons for increases and decreases in crime due to gun laws is stupid, and that real analysis requires taking a lot more into account.

    Nah, what fun would P&N be then?
     
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    what if i told you that crimes will exist forever?
     
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    He's trying to make the argument that the government fails at keeping contraband out of prisons. How can turning society into a prison solve the problem?
     
  7. IceBergSLiM

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    are you implying drunks only beat each other after the gun ban?
     
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    Are there any gun crime stats that remove gang bangers, career criminals and drug related murders?
     
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    This is factually false. Not that I expected better of you.
     
  11. klinc

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    No I am implying that a voilent does not always involve a firearm. Define a violent crime in the UK for me

    http://www.justfacts.com/guncontrol.asp
     
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  13. OrByte

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    OMG there is a pool of victims everywhar!!! oh nooes!

    The NRA is right! we need MOAR GUN POWAR!
     
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    I love how the end of the graph has a few years of no data available. It's like someone phoned it in because they didn't feel like doing stats that year.
     
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    Congratulations!

    You have demonstrated that Roe v Wade was indeed the most successful crime fighting measure ever passed in the united states.