How is something like this compared to the latest and greatest cards from Nvidia and ATI ?

rbV5

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A higher end ATI or especially NV gaming card would make a better workstation card than that would make a gaming card.
 

VIAN

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The thing is that the drivers on it wouldn't care about games and would give you terrible performance.
 

Drayvn

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Originally posted by: rbV5
A higher end ATI or especially NV gaming card would make a better workstation card than that would make a gaming card.

How?

GAming cards are specifically made to RUN graphics...

Workstation cards are specifically made to MAKE graphics... i.e. they are used in making CGI in movies
 

ntdz

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b/c that thing is a piece of trash, im sorry but ati and nvidia are the only 2 decent video card manufactorers, just like intel and amd are the only decent x86 processor manufactorers.
 

zephyrprime

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Originally posted by: Drayvn
How?

GAming cards are specifically made to RUN graphics...

Workstation cards are specifically made to MAKE graphics... i.e. they are used in making CGI in movies
Actually, movies rely on software rendering for the finished product. No video card "makes" graphics. The only things to make graphics are people when they drag around wireframes and paint textures. Also, both the consumer cards from NVidia and ATi use the same chips as their workstation counterparts (the Quadro & the FireGL) but the bios' of the consumer cards have disabled the special workstation functions (which only take up a small percentage of the die). Various hacks exist to re-enable them. There are also multi-chip nvidia and ati products made by third parties meant for high end applications.
 

Marsumane

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That card is not designed for framerate, it is designed for accuracy. It's like comparing a semi to a ferarri. They are made different for different tasks. You wouldnt race a semi, nor pull a trailer with a ferarri.
 

fbrdphreak

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A guy I work with (one of those who knows EVERYTHING about EVERYTHING) has been telling me that his $2000 Quadro 4000 (I believe that's what he said it was) could run D3 @ 2048xwhatever w/all eye candy turned on @ 200fps. Should I call BS on him? ;)
 
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Originally posted by: ntdz
b/c that thing is a piece of trash, im sorry but ati and nvidia are the only 2 decent video card manufactorers, just like intel and amd are the only decent x86 processor manufactorers.

Emm 3d Labs DO make good work station cards have not seen how their new one (as listed) compares to nVidia new quadro but don't just presume because it is not NV or ATI that they are crap.
 

AnnoyedGrunt

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Before Nvidia entered the professional graphics arena with their original GeForce cards (and brought hardware T&L to consumer cards), there was a big difference between the two types.

All of the gaming cards required high fillrate in order to process textures in real time while the professional cards required geometry and lighting acceleration to rotate models with a large number of polygons. With this separation of function, a gaming card (like the TNT or Voodoo cards) would not work well for professional work and a professional card (Like HP Starbase Cards and 3D Labs stuff) would not work well for gaming cards.

Once NV released the GeForce they started the trend towards a gaming card that could do professional work and a professional card that could do gaming work.

I don't know what the fillrate of the wildcat card is, but it would probably not run games very well since it probably has a low fillrate. As far as drivers go, it might run Open GL games well (if it does have good fillrate), but I don't know about DX ones.

The 6800 Ultra, which I think is very similar to the FX4000 or FX4400 Quadro cards would probably perform similarly (I haven't seen any benchmarks, but both cards seem to have similar prices). If the Wildcat does have good fillrate, then it would probably be comparable to the 6800 Ultra (although the Quadro cards and the rest of the professional cards have good 2d components, which is something the gaming cards sometimes lack).

-D'oh!