How is it legal for them not to plow anymore?

[rudeguy]

Our local county announced that they will only be plowing the highways for the most part. This has been an annoyance, but tonite is just ridiculous. We have been getting hammered with snow and they haven't plowed any of the major roads. When they announced the cutbacks (they couldn't afford to pay the plow guys overtime) the deal was that they were supposed to keep the main roads clear. They weren't going to plow the non-highways at night or on the weekend. This was supposed to be tit for tat. Its not. I have driven through plenty of snowstorms on plenty of bad roads and never have I saw roads this bad.

I am sure our great governor sees this as a way to boost 4x4 sales. I just don't see how its legal to let the roads be literally impassible and not try to do something about it. Does anyone know if the state/county would be liable if someone got in a bad wreck because the roads weren't plowed?

 

[JohnCU]

put a plow on the van and go to it

 

[tranceport]

Michigan.

 

[Eli]

Why would cities be legally required to clear all roads? Seems silly.

 

[rudeguy]

Originally posted by: JohnCU
put a plow on the van and go to it

Van is my sis'. I have a Grand Prix. It does just fine on snow. Its not a damn bulldozer though.


How are school buses supposed to drive in this stuff?

 

[JohnCU]

Originally posted by: rudeguy

Originally posted by: JohnCU
put a plow on the van and go to it

Van is my sis'. I have a Grand Prix. It does just fine on snow. Its not a damn bulldozer though.


How are school buses supposed to drive in this stuff?

school will be cancelled if its unsafe for buses

 

[rudeguy]

Originally posted by: Eli
Why would cities be legally required to clear all roads? Seems silly.

Its part of the county taxes. They make a HUGE deal about road upkeep when elections roll around.

 

[Newbian]

Originally posted by: tranceport
Michigan.

Now we know where to send the nukes.

 

[herrjimbo]

Originally posted by: rudeguy

Originally posted by: Eli
Why would cities be legally required to clear all roads? Seems silly.

Its part of the county taxes. They make a HUGE deal about road upkeep when elections roll around.

i believe eli was being sarcastic.

 

[rudeguy]

Originally posted by: Newbian

Originally posted by: tranceport
Michigan.

Now we know where to send the nukes.

I give up

 

[Newbian]

Originally posted by: rudeguy

Originally posted by: Newbian

Originally posted by: tranceport
Michigan.

Now we know where to send the nukes.

I give up

Don't worry.

I looked at your post and copied the link and sent the address to the government.

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: Eli
Why would cities be legally required to clear all roads? Seems silly.

For real. This post is WIN.

OP - read your state's constitution. Fucking entitlement mentality. Why the hell would one even think it is illegal?

Blows my mind this entitlement mentality.

 

[Howard]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr._Plow

 

[rudeguy]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: Eli
Why would cities be legally required to clear all roads? Seems silly.

For real. This post is WIN.

OP - read your state's constitution. Fucking entitlement mentality. Why the hell would one even think it is illegal?

Blows my mind this entitlement mentality.

Says the guys from NM and KY. You guys get a couple inches and its a statewide emergency.



:roll:

 

[moshquerade]

put your helmet on. i'll be over on my snow sled.

 

[kevnich2]

Make calls to your local government and start speaking your mind. And like someone else said, if it's dangerous, school would be cancelled. I've never heard of a city flat out refusing to plow any of the roads. The city I used to live in up in Illinois would give up after a little while if it was a really bad blizzard and wait until the snow stopped, then they'd plow all the major roads followed by the minor ones. This is the stuff you want to raise up around election time.

And I really don't see how it's "entitlement mentality" to expect the roads to be plowed by the city. It's not the citizen's job to plow the roads, unless they live in the country and their the only ones on that particular road but that's not what the OP was referring to.

 

[GodlessAstronomer]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: Eli
Why would cities be legally required to clear all roads? Seems silly.

For real. This post is WIN.

OP - read your state's constitution. Fucking entitlement mentality. Why the hell would one even think it is illegal?

Blows my mind this entitlement mentality.

Yeah, why would a tax payer feel entitled to usable roads?

 

[Bignate603]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: Eli
Why would cities be legally required to clear all roads? Seems silly.

For real. This post is WIN.

OP - read your state's constitution. Fucking entitlement mentality. Why the hell would one even think it is illegal?

Blows my mind this entitlement mentality.

If they don't want to do it they shouldn't take the tax money for it. Plain and simple. If it's what the local officials are promising for the tax dollars they should provide it.

 

[venkman]

Originally posted by: rudeguy
Our local county announced that they will only be plowing the highways for the most part. This has been an annoyance, but tonite is just ridiculous. We have been getting hammered with snow and they haven't plowed any of the major roads. When they announced the cutbacks (they couldn't afford to pay the plow guys overtime) the deal was that they were supposed to keep the main roads clear. They weren't going to plow the non-highways at night or on the weekend. This was supposed to be tit for tat. Its not. I have driven through plenty of snowstorms on plenty of bad roads and never have I saw roads this bad.

I am sure our great governor sees this as a way to boost 4x4 sales. I just don't see how its legal to let the roads be literally impassible and not try to do something about it. Does anyone know if the state/county would be liable if someone got in a bad wreck because the roads weren't plowed?

Which county are you speaking of? I'm in the OC and all of the roads were great today (not counting local sub division streets, but those are never plowed anyways).

 

[rudeguy]

Originally posted by: venkman

Originally posted by: rudeguy
Our local county announced that they will only be plowing the highways for the most part. This has been an annoyance, but tonite is just ridiculous. We have been getting hammered with snow and they haven't plowed any of the major roads. When they announced the cutbacks (they couldn't afford to pay the plow guys overtime) the deal was that they were supposed to keep the main roads clear. They weren't going to plow the non-highways at night or on the weekend. This was supposed to be tit for tat. Its not. I have driven through plenty of snowstorms on plenty of bad roads and never have I saw roads this bad.

I am sure our great governor sees this as a way to boost 4x4 sales. I just don't see how its legal to let the roads be literally impassible and not try to do something about it. Does anyone know if the state/county would be liable if someone got in a bad wreck because the roads weren't plowed?

Which county are you speaking of? I'm in the OC and all of the roads were great today (not counting local sub division streets, but those are never plowed anyways).

Allegan

 

[BoomerD]

Ah geez...another "nanny-stater" heard from...Plow your own roads sissy! Quit depending on the government to hold your hand, wipe your nose, and plow the roads for you. :roll:























WOO-HOO!
Check your batteries folks...:laugh:

 

[xeemzor]

The obvious answer to this problem is to pick up and move to someplace that doesn't suck. I.E. Anywhere but Michigan.

 

[nismotigerwvu]

Taxation without representation!
Wait...well....almost.....
I'm not completely in know here on this, but I'd assume it is in the legislation somewhere that some specific tax is for road upkeep.
If the choice is made to not maintain the roads with public funds then they simply shouldn't keep the tax in place.
If the tax HAS actually been removed, then things are getting pretty scary over your way.

 

[bunker]

You can blame the county, not the state. The state owns and is responsible for around 7% of the roads in Michigan. I know this because I work for the state and have frequent dealings with MDOT.
You have to go at the county or the municipality for the local roads.

 

[jagec]

Originally posted by: rudeguy
Does anyone know if the state/county would be liable if someone got in a bad wreck because the roads weren't plowed?

No, that's the brilliance of their plan. If the snow gets deep enough, no one can get into a wreck--they'll just get stuck in a soft blanket of snow!