How is Gaming on a LCD 20--23 inches? is it bad since you cant run it at its native resolution?

[AnMig]

Situation:

System barton core at 2.1 ghz, asus a7n8x deluxe, 1gb ram, video card 9700 (9500 softmod).

I am dying for an upgrade but have decided for the Nforce 4 boards then I will upgrade my CPU and mobo.
I also decided that I will wait after X-mas before I purchase a x800 pro card or better.

Now I want replace my samsung 19 900inf monitor. and looking at the 23 inch sony 1600 at newegg.

Question

1. Gaming on a 23 inch or even 20 inch lcd using todays fastest available hardware (CPU, video card) will look bad since you will not be able to run the games using its native resolution. True or false?

2. Todays current LCD's have improved and no longer look bad when gaming and scaling to 1280x750.
true or false?


3. A true gamer should not buy a wide screen lcd since most next gen games (next 2 years) will not have any support for them anyway. True or false

4. actual picture size on a widescreen lcd is lesser than non lcd of the same size..

I guess the main question is if your a trure gamer will you buy a 23 inch lcd? if so widescreeen or not?

Thanks

 

[nakedfrog]

So they've got them updating as fast as CRTs with no ghosting or trails now?

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog
So they've got them updating as fast as CRTs with no ghosting or trails now?

not entirely
the 12ms panels are close tho

1) depends on the game, many do not support the strange resolutions the thoes monitors use, some might work at 1920x1440 but not many, and pushing a game like doo3 at that res will be hard for even the 6800 ultra

2) 1280*750? thatsa strange res, but todays pannels the 16mn and below ones show little ghosting

3) true

4) depends, most LCDs of that size have a res of 1600x1200 if the widscreen is 1680x1050 then teh normal one has more space, if teh widescreen is 1920x1200 then the WS has more space

true gamers buy 22in CRTs

 

[fs5]

don't think you system will run HL2 @ 1600x1200 smoothly, I think it's a bad idea

 

[AnMig]

I thought ghosting was no longer an issue as long as the response rate was 16ms or better?

I was more concerned about running games at 1280 x768 and the problem with scaled imgaes looking bad on a lcd.

 

[Anubis]

running a non native res still looks bad, not as bad as it used to but still bad

most 16ms panels will not ghost on 2/3 of the games out there, but for some games they still do, the 12mn pannels have almost no ghosting, but i dont think a 12ms 23in LCD exists yet

 

[AnMig]

"True gamers buy 22in CRTs "

I thought it was bad Idea for a gamer. I actually talked my wife out of buying the sony 23 inch lcd today.

My reason being even if I upgrade to the fastest cpu and video card (X800 xt pe or 6800ULTRa) I will still not be able to run my games at the native resolution.

I was hoping that todays lcd generation do not look bad anymore when scaling games. I guess this is still a problem. sigh

Thanks

 

[jinu117]

Don't know but I am getting one soon. Currently using 22" CRT but I have no problem running any game @ 1600x1200 now with SLI setup. Might as well abuse the power.

 

[AzNmAnJLH]

i've been playing WoW on my 15" lcd.... i am using my 21" trinitron for atot... should i switch? lol

 

[Philippine Mango]

I don't see how people are having problems with ghosting... Maybe I don't know what to look for? The only thing I have ever noticed is that when moving very fast across the screen, I can see some shifted blocks (lines on walls look shifted a bit) but more so than with normal alaising. I was watching a movie on my laptop and same thing happens when the screen moves, is this the "ghosting" people are talking about? Otherwise I haven't see any ghosting, my monitors are from 1999 so I would assume they are slow...

 

[0roo0roo]

1. Gaming on a 23 inch or even 20 inch lcd using todays fastest available hardware (CPU, video card) will look bad since you will not be able to run the games using its native resolution. True or false?

thats what sli is for. so its false.

and don't complain about price when ur paying for a 23" screen anyways

 

[Insane3D]

I was in the same situation recently. I was choosing between the Dell 2001FP, 2005FPW widescreen, or a NEC/Mitsu 22" CRT. After looking at everything, the NEC 22" blew away even high end LCD's in pretty much everything but text, size, and power usage.

 

[SportSC4]

I'm using a 2005FPW (20" Widescreen, 1680x1050) and here are my answers
#1 - I don't think it would look bad. I'm using a Geforce Titan3 (similar to a Geforce Ti500) and am playing the following games at native resolution, Counter Strike w/ the CS Realism patch with no slowdown, DeusEX with full effects, Far Cry 2 demo was choppy though, Call of Duty was useable, and I think that's all the 3D games I've played at native resolution.

#2 - I haven't had an opportunity to scale down to 1280x768. But the ratio isn't that much different, you could set the lcd monitor to aspect and you would have maybe some 20 odd pixel black bars on each side.

#3 - the way I see it, more and more games support widescreen. I don't see why support would drop. Also consider that longhorn is going to have that sidebar, it would take up less usable space on a widescreen than a traditional aspect. So my answer to this question is False.

#4 - actual area is smaller. a 20" LCD has slightly more area than my 20" widescreen. But the aspect ratio is nicer for gaming and OS usage (IMO).

 

[cerebusPu]

Im using 20inch LCD for gaming. games look fine at 1280x1024 if i have to run it that way. Ive been running halflife2 and some other games at 1600x1200 and it looks even better.

ghosting is nonexistant. I was worried about the same tihngs that you did but nothing bad so far. i did upgrade my video card to x800 pro.