How is centralized vaccination policy a net benefit to society?

[Anarchist420]

Vaccination is not 100% bad, but it is more bad than good. Some people are very sensitive to needles (even though I am not since I am an ape). Vaccinations reduce natural immunity. Individual physicians dont need the State to guide them.

If there were more confederalism, then we would have cures that were inexpensive in the long term (and that were developed voluntarily) and a lot less diabetes, a lot less heart disease, a lot less cancer, and a lot less erectile dysfunction going around. Repealing trade regs on medical products and repealing prescription legislation means there would be less gas wasted (me and my dad have to turn in my unused amphetamine and some unused prescriptions this morning), less paper wasted, less electricity wasted, less bandwidth wasted, more confidentiality between patient and doctor (HIPAA created expensive bureaucracy and could never have protected privacy), cheaper medical care, and better medical care. More females than males are becoming physicians and females are smarter, more tolerant of ambiguity, and are more emphathetic so they will be hurt by the State much more than they could ever be helped by it. Their charity will be a lot better than the State.

 

[brycejones]

Herd immunity - look it up.

 

[TheSiege]

Here, I will help you out, watch this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPcC4oGB_o8

 

[Veliko]

Vaccination is not 100% bad, but it is more bad than good.

wat

 

[Fanatical Meat]

 

[piasabird]

Well if you were facing a polio epidemic maybe you would like vaccines. Vaccines really are needed.

 

[Fenixgoon]

that's pretty awesome.

 

[piasabird]

America is safer today and the population is healthier because of things like Vaccines, and clean water and air standards. Availability of doctors helps also.

 

[waggy]

that's pretty awesome.

yeah it is. Having the numbers is great. Vaccination is rather amazing. that we can protect ourselves against some very deadly things with a little shot.

 

[Vic]

I miss smallpox

 

[shortylickens]

what about cholera?

 

[Jaskalas]

OP, if there was a vaccine for Ebola, would you really say no?

 

[ElFenix]

what about cholera?

then we'd need a chart with spigots

we could do e.coli and use eggs

 

[Anarchist420]

i am getting tired and weak as fuck.

America is safer today and the population is healthier because of things like Vaccines, and clean water and air standards. Availability of doctors helps also.

i have met an lpn as smart as (if not smarter than) cute little ron paul m.d. and both are against licensure. getting rid of licensure doesnt reduce the overall happiness of society and it may even increase it. psychiatrists are looked up on partly due to their title. they arent even the ones who force medications into people, they just order it done. the State is tyrannical. it went after physicians who assisted unhappy people with suicide.

and the lpn mentioned above in this post doesnt care about her money. she wears the same clothes every other day. she's the sweetest woman i have ever met and she looks good.

OP, if there was a vaccine for Ebola, would you really say no?

i would resist it if someone offered it to me now.

 

[CitizenKain]

i am getting tired and weak as fuck.
i have met an lpn as smart as (if not smarter than) cute little ron paul m.d. and both are against licensure. getting rid of licensure doesnt reduce the overall happiness of society and it may even increase it. psychiatrists are looked up on partly due to their title. they arent even the ones who force medications into people, they just order it done. the State is tyrannical. it went after physicians who assisted unhappy people with suicide.

and the lpn mentioned above in this post doesnt care about her money. she wears the same clothes every other day. she's the sweetest woman i have ever met and she looks good.

i would resist it if someone offered it to me now.

You need to get the fuck off the internet and into a serious treatment plan.

 

[Kadarin]

OP would not feel the same way if he started showing signs of polio.

Sometimes there are things that people say that are just so fucking stupid you have to just shake your head and walk away. The OP shows that here.

 

[hal2kilo]

The only thing I see wrong with vacines is that we have not planed for the natural culling of the worlds population (or lack thereof). One of the reasons for the population explosion. Add in modern farming techniques, and here we are with way too many people.

 

[rommelrommel]

(me and my dad have to turn in my unused amphetamine and some unused prescriptions this morning),

For the love of Ron Paul please take whatever the fuck it is that you're supposed to.

 

[CottonRabbit]

For the love of Ron Paul please take whatever the fuck it is that you're supposed to.

He needs a new psychiatrist if he's getting amphetamines given his history of manic behavior and delusions.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Measles reaches a 20 year high due to people not being vaccinated.

"Two hundred and eighty-eight cases of measles were reported to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) in the United States between Jan. 1 and May 23, 2014. This is the largest number of measles cases in the United States reported in the first five months of a year since 1994. Nearly all of the measles cases this year have been associated with international travel by unvaccinated people.

“The current increase in measles cases is being driven by unvaccinated people, primarily U.S. residents, who got measles in other countries, brought the virus back to the United States and spread to others in communities where many people are not vaccinated,” said Dr. Anne Schuchat, assistant surgeon general and director of CDC’s National Center for Immunizations and Respiratory Diseases. “Many of the clusters in the U.S. began following travel to the Philippines where a large outbreak has been occurring since October 2013.”

http://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2014/p0529-measles.html

 

[Bitek]

(me and my dad have to turn in my unused amphetamine and some unused prescriptions this morning)

Can you still get them back?

 

[inachu]

that's pretty awesome.

Pretty awsome but you have to judge who this is created against.

Who are the people who create these anti viral agents.

When they are finally tested on humans who then are the first humans and what race are they?

There is growing concern that when an agent is created lets just say for evil purposes an anti viral gent is created but the guinea pigs are all german people.

Then only germans and other europeans will benefit the most from these anti viral shots.

If the people from the onset tested with a new drug are all black people then black people will benefit from these anti virals.

Now if you test a person who is a mix of many races then those races in her DNa will benefit the most.


You may cry BS but over long term trials done in this fashion then you will see more death rates of one group over another.

Just common sense.

 

[Uppsala9496]

Pretty awsome but you have to judge who this is created against.

Who are the people who create these anti viral agents.

When they are finally tested on humans who then are the first humans and what race are they?

There is growing concern that when an agent is created lets just say for evil purposes an anti viral gent is created but the guinea pigs are all german people.

Then only germans and other europeans will benefit the most from these anti viral shots.

If the people from the onset tested with a new drug are all black people then black people will benefit from these anti virals.

Now if you test a person who is a mix of many races then those races in her DNa will benefit the most.


You may cry BS but over long term trials done in this fashion then you will see more death rates of one group over another.

Just common sense.

What? All of the US population is on a vaccination schedule, not just certain ethnic groups.

 

[z1ggy]

Vaccination is not 100% bad, but it is more bad than good.

So would you wager it's somewhere between 51-99% bad?

 

[Anarchist420]

Measles reaches a 20 year high due to people not being vaccinated. "Two hundred and eighty-eight cases of measles were reported to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) in the United States between Jan. 1 and May 23, 2014. This is the largest number of measles cases in the United States reported in the first five months of a year since 1994. Nearly all of the measles cases this year have been associated with international travel by unvaccinated people. “The current increase in measles cases is being driven by unvaccinated people, primarily U.S. residents, who got measles in other countries, brought the virus back to the United States and spread to others in communities where many people are not vaccinated,” said Dr. Anne Schuchat, assistant surgeon general and director of CDC’s National Center for Immunizations and Respiratory Diseases. “Many of the clusters in the U.S. began following travel to the Philippines where a large outbreak has been occurring since October 2013.” http://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/20...9-measles.html

Thank you but then ~99% of those infected would have built up their immune systems naturally, 90% would not have had permanent bad effects, and everyone who didnt get the vaccines would not have gotten the toxins. You know that some people are very sensitive to metals especially needles, dont you (even though i admit that i am not one of them)? And how can every single vaccine be 100% risk-free and harmless? Does anyone really believe that every vaccine is always good enough for everyone?

That is one very good reason why vaccines dont fit everyone... about half the u.s. population is so aware and observant that it is a complete and total tyrannical waste for the CDC to come up with all these uniform vaccine schedules that they get sued over and are always having to change because of human action actually being more powerful than the State. And if the lab companies wanted to, they could start testing blood to see who needs which vaccines. instead, they draw pints of both blood and piss from psychiatric patients for no good reason (and they also ask you what you have consumed, they have the controlled substances act, prescription privileges, mandated ambulance rides where they hook you up to some industrial grade cardiovascular monitor the whole time and maybe worse in the future, replacements of it require excise taxes, keeping records to prove that you paid the excise taxes, waste of energy to submit the excise taxes to the dept of debt, etc., etc) and then they probably dispose of it in an non-optimal way because of medical fascism.

And my dad can't even work or volunteer since my mom's youngest brother filed an anonymous complaint about medicare fraud (when my waived all the medicare fees his practice would allow) and the VA board of medicine told my dad they were going to continue to investigate even after the U.S.G. concluded there was no fraud (wouldnt surprise me if the U.S.G. gave my mom's brother a reward though). my dad doesnt even want to believe my mom's brother did it. i had thought maybe he was the odd one of out of my mom and her four siblings until he did that shit, but now i hate myself even more because he is too much like me, the rest of my mom's siblings, and my grandmother, her mother, and her mother, all the way back to when my matrilineage consisted only of pure monkeys. So do you see how stupid and evil the State is now? Has anyone been converted? I hope so because it is universally true that society will be much worse off the more centralization there is. If it werent for the U.S.G my mother's mother's genes would've had most of who I actually am in a warzone instead of the u.s., I would not have lived to my 10th birthday, I would've been unable to have had such an evil soul since i couldnt reason well enough yet, and that could not and would not have been a bad thing.

So would you wager it's somewhere between 51-99% bad?

I am not going to place numbers on it like that; i definitely think they are bad overall. Does that answer your question? Do you have any more questions for me? Just wondering