i agree that 48c is rather warm at idle, but it's a hell of alot better than 60c. I think the main problem is the hsf... if you've read the earlier posts you know that i couldn't get it fit so i replaced the metal clip with a larger one. I'll probably wind up buy a new hsf and a new case in a while (either a super orb or a fop 32-1 for the hsf, and probably a en7237 case). But i'm low on cash right now, so i'll have to settle with this for a little while. I just wanted to thank all the people (especially tweakr) for atleast teaching me something about cooling my case.