How has HIV even become an issue?

steppinthrax

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I was born in the early 80's. When I was taking health class (middle school). I remember they made a big deal out of condom uses and abstinence from sex. Based on the knowledge we had at that time, HIV first became an issue in the Gay community. It was initially a "Gay disease".

It of course was confirmed that anybody could get this. However, years and years have past since this and medicine has advanced a lot over HIV. Now we have epidemiological data that can give very accurate statistics on HIV contraction via sexual and non-sexual methods. As well as some documentaries that describer our the poor quality of our blood banking systems. A few things I've noticed in material that I've read....

1. Epidemiological data shows that the probability of contracting HIV via sexual activities is quite low. Many people think that just "one encounter" is enough. But based on the data it can take several hundred encounters 1/909. While I was in school it, the classes described almost "one encounter" or this is a "sex disease".... The data even breaks down the actual "sex act", anal sex (of course) has the highest contraction rate (simply because the blood vessels in the anus etc).

2. There are a few things that came to light through documentaries etc... (1). For some time hypodermic needles were reused and reused (non-disposable). (2) The blood banking system was a fucking mess, at that time they paid for blood donations and drug dealers commonly donated. (3) A lot of blood based pharmaceutics were manufactured from this blood, one being "factor" which was given to hemophilia patients. Therefore, there is a possibility that the medical system at that time was a spreading the disease or facilitating the spread.

3. The highest risk activities for HIV contraction are blood transfusions and needle sharing (drugs).

So I guess my question is, what was the most major contributor to the spread of HIV? Could sex alone cause HIV to spread to the levels that we have today? Assuming the medical community was "removed from the equation", would HIV even be an issue today?
 
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ultimatebob

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Some people would say that the medical community didn't really pay much attention to AIDS/HIV until HIV positive people started donating blood and people who were neither gay or drug addicted started catching the disease.
 

cbrunny

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I read this three times and I don't understand what you're asking. Are you asking why a communicable disease spread? Isn't the answer to that obvious?
 

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I read this three times and I don't understand what you're asking. Are you asking why a communicable disease spread? Isn't the answer to that obvious?

Through communication, duh!
 

steppinthrax

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I read this three times and I don't understand what you're asking. Are you asking why a communicable disease spread? Isn't the answer to that obvious?

So I guess my question is, what was the most major contributor to the spread of HIV? Could sex alone cause HIV to spread to the levels that we have today? Assuming the medical community was "removed from the equation", would HIV even be an issue today?
 

cbrunny

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So I guess my question is, what was the most major contributor to the spread of HIV? Could sex alone cause HIV to spread to the levels that we have today? Assuming the medical community was "removed from the equation", would HIV even be an issue today?

Thanks, champ. Copying and pasting two lines of a question that I don't understand doesn't help me understand.
 

SMOGZINN

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So I guess my question is, what was the most major contributor to the spread of HIV? Could sex alone cause HIV to spread to the levels that we have today? Assuming the medical community was "removed from the equation", would HIV even be an issue today?

Yes, sex alone was enough. While sharing needles are a major vector here in the US (and other first world nations) it is not a major vector in Africa where the largest HIV epidemic is.
 

Rakehellion

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So I guess my question is, what was the most major contributor to the spread of HIV? Could sex alone cause HIV to spread to the levels that we have today? Assuming the medical community was "removed from the equation", would HIV even be an issue today?

The HIV population is less than 1% in America. About half of those people are gay. Gay people have a lot more sex than everyone else.

HIV isn't really that big of a problem when you compare it to other diseases.
 

OutHouse

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The HIV population is less than 1% in America. About half of those people are gay. Gay people have a lot more sex than everyone else.

HIV isn't really that big of a problem when you compare it to other diseases.

Africa has a huge HIV problem. i read somewhere a few months ago that like 90% of all the children in the world with HIV are in Africa.
 

Rakehellion

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Africa has a huge HIV problem. i read somewhere a few months ago that like 90% of all the children in the world with HIV are in Africa.

Well, developing countries deal with a lot of things that aren't a problem everywhere else. West Africa even has an Ebola problem even though that's basically spread through feces.
 

edro

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Yes, sex is enough... just look at Africa.
No education or money for protection.

It's not a major problem in 1st world nations, where there are high levels of health education and income.
 

Scarpozzi

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I have a family member in my extended family that got a blood transfusion in the 1970s or 1980s (not sure exactly when). He ended up contracting a rare form of Hep C that originated from asia. It took years and years, but the damage finally required a liver transplant. He finally got whatever drug they just released that's supposed to cure Hep C and between the transplant and the drug, they said he's been cured.

I wouldn't doubt that a lot of stuff was spread through blood banks after they started stockpiling blood to sell to hospitals.
 

Imp

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The HIV population is less than 1% in America. About half of those people are gay. Gay people have a lot more sex than everyone else.

HIV isn't really that big of a problem when you compare it to other diseases.

I, honestly, have no clue if that's true or not.

My close gay friend definitely talked a lot about all the young men he was dating. And it was a different one every few weeks. Probably because he came out so late and was catching up.

What I have heard is that butt-stuff may be higher risk than all other stuff because of higher chances of tearing -- no lubrication system developed through evolution due to inter-gender relations not producing offspring?