How hard will it be to get launch Haswell?

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cbrunny

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Mobo just died (i think - either the MOBO or the CPU, or both), which means an upgrade is in order. Was running a phenom II x6 1055T, so whether it is to a IVB or HSW, the jump will be pretty large. Currently torn between waiting for Haswell or taking advantage of some of the better sales & combo deals now appearing for the 3770k.

One of my considerations is how difficult it will be to get HSW at launch. This would be a first for me - buying a CPU at launch. So I don't really know what to expect. Will they be tough to come by? How long should I expect to wait if I'm not able to get one right away?

And, if you're going to recommend going with the 3770K, what would be a good price point to wait for/expect/hope to see in a bundle?

I am in Canada. Thanks!
 
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I take MicroCenter as my benchmark for prices :
3570K - $189.99 (occasionally $169.99 like this weekend) + $40 discount on mobo
3770K - $229.99 straight up
 
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Yeah I just noticed the $229 at microcenter. That's impressively cheap - and sadly not in Canada. I could jump across the border, but it would be a full day event. Add on $60 in gas, and I'm hitting $290. Assuming no other expenses.
 
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Usually very easy to get hold of. Even a week or two before release. Distributors have gotten CPUs the last month or so.
 
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-it's a good mb that might be a issue with haswell imo time wise .
-most will have the usb chipset issue knowing that - will it affect bios updates 1 year from now ?with 2 versions of the same mb's ?.

-should add
with the vrm on the cpu are any mb's going to have revision after release in addition to that[ 2 so far]? seems like a mess to me. not trying to put anyone off but there has been nothing about these issues that I've seen on the net.
just like sb mb's came pci-e 3.0 ready ,all you have to do is replace the mb re switching chips not rated for pci-e 3.0 in sli.[with ib]
 
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Where do you normally order from? I went ahead and got a Sandy Bridge last fall when Ivy Bridge was the chip to get. I didn't regret it either, as there was a better selection of boards with more mature BIOSes, IMO. Still runs much cooler than my Kentsfield, even with a mild overclock.

I say "buy now and get a deal."
 
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ketchup79 said:
Where do you normally order from? I went ahead and got a Sandy Bridge last fall when Ivy Bridge was the chip to get. I didn't regret it either, as there was a better selection of boards with more mature BIOSes, IMO. Still runs much cooler than my Kentsfield, even with a mild overclock.

I say "buy now and get a deal."
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I typically buy from NCIX, Newegg, or Canada Computers. If I'm in a pinch, tiger direct. Newegg in Canada is not as competitive as it is in the USA, probably because they still ship a lot of stuff from their American warehouses.

I've now discovered that my CPU is in tact, my mobo is toast though. This changes the game a bit. hmm.......
 
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ketchup79 said:
Where do you normally order from? I went ahead and got a Sandy Bridge last fall when Ivy Bridge was the chip to get. I didn't regret it either, as there was a better selection of boards with more mature BIOSes, IMO. Still runs much cooler than my Kentsfield, even with a mild overclock.

I say "buy now and get a deal."
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when new stuff comes out there are always serious bugs, like spontaneous crashes or stuff not turning on/off. its better to get ivy bridge now
 
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cbrunny said:
I typically buy from NCIX, Newegg, or Canada Computers. If I'm in a pinch, tiger direct. Newegg in Canada is not as competitive as it is in the USA, probably because they still ship a lot of stuff from their American warehouses.

I've now discovered that my CPU is in tact, my mobo is toast though. This changes the game a bit. hmm.......
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Yeah, down to how much you like your system, now that you have the idea of a new build running around in your head, lol. Newegg looks to have some decent boards still available:

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...82E16813186215
 
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cbrunny

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Exactly.

Not sure what to do. Now I'm thinking get a half-way decent am3+ board, run my x6 until steamroller comes out and get one of those as a drop in upgrade. Seems that steamroller will be am3+ and all are expecting it to be drop in upgrade. The x6 isn't that bad... games well with my 7970. This also keeps some dough in my pocket.... not a bad thing.
 
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cbrunny said:
Exactly.

Not sure what to do. Now I'm thinking get a half-way decent am3+ board, run my x6 until steamroller comes out and get one of those as a drop in upgrade. Seems that steamroller will be am3+ and all are expecting it to be drop in upgrade. The x6 isn't that bad... games well with my 7970. This also keeps some dough in my pocket.... not a bad thing.
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I won't be holding my breath for SR @ AM3+. Although it's not impossible the more probable scenario is that SR will first come to FM2 platform (and stay there when it comes to desktop space). AM3+ might see some sort of 8370 and that's about it IMO. 6T on FM2 should be good for mainstream segment in 2014 and after that comes a new socket which will mean new memory standard,new cores, new iGPU.

If I were you I would find a good deal on 3570K+MB and OC it.
 
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I'd just get a nice AM3+ motherboard and continue using what you have. Even if Steamroller doesn't come out on the same socket, you can still upgrade to a nicer FX 8350 down the line.

A lot cheaper to just buy a board for now.
 
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OBLAMA2009 said:
when new stuff comes out there are always serious bugs, like spontaneous crashes or stuff not turning on/off. its better to get ivy bridge now
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I got all the major components on my current system at launch (mobo/CPU/GPU) and no issues. To say there are ALWAYS SERIOUS bugs is quite simply false. There is a known USB 3.0 bug with Haswell, but hardly that serious and the vast majority of users will never even encounter it.
 
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Don't think it will be that hard to get hold of. It's not a hugely anticipated CPU, and demand for desktop CPUs in general isn't that great.
 
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2is said:
I got all the major components on my current system at launch (mobo/CPU/GPU) and no issues. To say there are ALWAYS SERIOUS bugs is quite simply false. There is a known USB 3.0 bug with Haswell, but hardly that serious and the vast majority of users will never even encounter it.
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really, you seriously think most people wont ever plug a usb 3 flash drive into their haswell machine? would you buy a haswell system on lauch day knowing that bug is there? i wouldnt. thats just one bug that we know of. whenever ive bought early theres always been something that was enough of a problem that i now realize its worth waiting a few months
 
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OBLAMA2009 said:
really, you seriously think most people wont ever plug a usb 3 flash drive into their haswell machine? would you buy a haswell system on lauch day knowing that bug is there? i wouldnt. thats just one bug that we know of. whenever ive bought early theres always been something that was enough of a problem that i now realize its worth waiting a few months
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You should understand the bug first. Its no problem plugging in a USB 3 flash device.
 
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OBLAMA2009 said:
really, you seriously think most people wont ever plug a usb 3 flash drive into their haswell machine? would you buy a haswell system on lauch day knowing that bug is there? i wouldnt. thats just one bug that we know of. whenever ive bought early theres always been something that was enough of a problem that i now realize its worth waiting a few months
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As stated above, the problem isn't plugging in a USB 3 flash drive. And yes, I plan on buying a MacBook Air as soon as I can order a Haswell equipped one.
 
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cbrunny

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I use it primarily for gaming (7970 x 1, with the expectation that I will add a second at some point), but also for media consumption - nothing in photoshop, no video editing, etc. Res is 1080p. So really not looking for something that must be beastly, but I do want it to last as long as possible.

It seemed pretty clear that steamroller would be am3+ based on what I've read. What makes you believe otherwise? Or just hopeful for newer tech?
 
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