how hard is it to install cams?

[Fingers]

Originally posted by: OS

Originally posted by: blahblah99

Originally posted by: OS

Originally posted by: blahblah99
Your dad's right. It's not a "replaced my intake in 15 mins" type of job. And if you never changed a timing belt before, then you'll certainly have trouble with changing cams.

I figure worst case I have it towed to a shop and have them install it.

I'm told for this engine if you wedge the tensioner, clamp the gears, hold up the chain, you don't need to realign the timing nor readjust the tensioner.

Worse case, you'll end up replacing your whole head and valve train.

I can live with that. I've priced out motors for this car, I can afford to blow up 10+ of these and have enough cash on hand to pay for all of them.

Then why are you wasting money with new cams. If you are dead set on keeping an accord to modify start with a 3L engine swap and I have even heard of successfull 3.5L vtec swaps with some accords. High performance cams really arn't all that. See the most benifit when stroking the engine.

 

[quakefiend420]

Originally posted by: OS

Originally posted by: quakefiend420
then why not just pay to have it done? :disgust:

cause I want to learn?

in that case...i would take it to someone who would let you watch/lend a hand...i wouldnt mess with that not knowing much about it...

 

[OS]

Originally posted by: Fingers
Then why are you wasting money with new cams. If you are dead set on keeping an accord to modify start with a 3L engine swap and I have even heard of successfull 3.5L vtec swaps with some accords. High performance cams really arn't all that. See the most benifit when stroking the engine.

If you had bothered reading the thread, you would have seen these only cost me $100.

The engine cannot be stroked, the stock stroke is 99 mm and piston speeds are already quite high for a production car.

 

[Fingers]

Originally posted by: OS

Originally posted by: Fingers
Then why are you wasting money with new cams. If you are dead set on keeping an accord to modify start with a 3L engine swap and I have even heard of successfull 3.5L vtec swaps with some accords. High performance cams really arn't all that. See the most benifit when stroking the engine.

If you had bothered reading the thread, you would have seen these only cost me $100.

The engine cannot be stroked, the stock stroke is 99 mm and piston speeds are already quite high for a production car.

Didn't mean to offend you and I did read the whole thread. Just happened to pay particular attention to that reply. Just seemed like you had money to burn.

 

[OS]

Originally posted by: Fingers

Originally posted by: OS

Originally posted by: Fingers
Then why are you wasting money with new cams. If you are dead set on keeping an accord to modify start with a 3L engine swap and I have even heard of successfull 3.5L vtec swaps with some accords. High performance cams really arn't all that. See the most benifit when stroking the engine.

If you had bothered reading the thread, you would have seen these only cost me $100.

The engine cannot be stroked, the stock stroke is 99 mm and piston speeds are already quite high for a production car.

Didn't mean to offend you and I did read the whole thread. Just happened to pay particular attention to that reply. Just seemed like you had money to burn.

I didn't acquire the money by being wasteful, I'm just saying I can absorb the worst case scenario.

 

[Fingers]

Well I guess I will go ahead and try to be helpful in the manner you requested in you OP.

The best tip I have ever used for helping keep the right timing is mark everthing with white out. Cam gear in relation to the head timing belt in a least 3 places and right along the crank key tot he block. Find the equivalent place on the new cams as to where you marked the old ones and mark them as well. The white out won't hurt anything and help makes sure you keep it in time.

After you finished make sure you rotate the engine by hand for a couple of full cycles to make sure you don't bend your valves when you start it.

Good luck and I hope all goes well.

 

[Kadarin]

Originally posted by: quakefiend420

Originally posted by: OS

Originally posted by: blahblah99

Originally posted by: OS

Originally posted by: blahblah99
Your dad's right. It's not a "replaced my intake in 15 mins" type of job. And if you never changed a timing belt before, then you'll certainly have trouble with changing cams.

I figure worst case I have it towed to a shop and have them install it.

I'm told for this engine if you wedge the tensioner, clamp the gears, hold up the chain, you don't need to realign the timing nor readjust the tensioner.

Worse case, you'll end up replacing your whole head and valve train.

I can live with that. I've priced out motors for this car, I can afford to blow up 10+ of these and have enough cash on hand to pay for all of them.

then why not just pay to have it done? :disgust:

Because then you lose out on both the learning experience and the pride in doing the job yourself. However, such a job as changing the cam(s) shouldn't be approached lightly.

 

[mAdD INDIAN]

Originally posted by: OS
pic of the cams

minor problem

The seller says he can refund me the money or get me another one. Haven't decided yet.

Originally posted by: mAdD INDIAN
if you only paid $100 for the cams, I really question their performance gain.

Have they been dyno-tested by other folks in the Accord community? How does it affect the power curve?

Most cams are usually in the $300 range aren't they?

They are cams from a civic SI, the engine family is the same. The accord these days has a CRV motor (truck motor) and they both have the same part number for cams. The civic SI has more aggressive cams to get the same 160 HP from a smaller 2.0L motor (vs 2.4L). AFAIK no one has done this before so I will be the first if I end up doing it. In theory there should be some significant gains since the CRV cams breathe poorly at high RPMs, this should alleviate that.

These particular cams are $300+ each from the dealer. Aftermarket ones are about the same price.

makes sense. Kudos to being an innovator. Who knows, you could start the next big thing in the Honda community.

But wait, teh Civic SI(R) have the D-series motors...Accords don't have D series motors do they?

 

[CRXican]

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I can live with that. I've priced out motors for this car, I can afford to blow up 10+ of these and have enough cash on hand to pay for all of them.

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If you're rolling in so much dough then you're wasting time putting cams in an Accord engine. Put an H22 in that thing, that would make more sense.