How good are the Mariner?

[SuperCyrix]

45-12, do people even noticed it? thats better start so far than any of the Yankee seasons of a few years back.
They're doing it without ken griffy jr and a rod

 

[1967mustangman]

Yes, they are having an excellent season! Yes they are a very good team, but it takes more than just half a season to determine a really good team. Post this at the end of the season and maybe we can talk!

 

[Russ]

The Mariners suck.

Russ, NCNE

 

[NakaNaka]

I am a Mariner fan and I am beyond excited

Russ yes of course they suck cause when your 33 games above .500 1/3 into the season your horrible ...

 

[psteng19]

I hope they do well this season.

That'll really show ARod and Jr.!
esp. ARod, that overpaid underachiever.

 

[rufruf44]

They've decent starting rotation and great bullpen that doesn't blow away lead often. Lineup is pretty good at hitting, but I figure they'll need to add a power hitter. Boone cant stay that hot forever.

 

[zbalat]

I think RUSS was refering to the Mariners that have capsised several sea vessels over the course of time.

I think they are amazing. No real superstar but someone always seems to step up when it is needed.

I say Cubs over the Mariners in 7.

 

[TheKidd]

[sarcasm] Russ, I always enthusiastically await your intelligent, witty posts. [sarcasm]

 

[Shmorq]

Seattle is an unbelievable team! But like a few said, it doesn't really mean that much until they win the World Series. I think the Yanks are still the team to beat because of their excellent scouting and clutch playing. Also, the Yanks after the trading deadline will be sure to have 1 or 2 more superstars on their team.

 

[goldboyd]

They're a good team, but there's no way they'll hold up the current pace. They'll win the division, then lose to the yanks in the playoffs. There's just no way for them to keep it up, boone will slump, suzuki (I refuse to call him by first name) will slump also. Pitchers will learn how to pitch him, and his inability to walk will hurt them more and more later in the season. Also, don't forget nellys tendincy to walk in many, many runs in close games, he'll blow a few close/important down the strech. I predict 104 wins.

 

[uncouth]

"It is an Ancient Mariner and he stoppeth one of three,
by thy long grey beard and glittering eye,
now wherefore stoppeth though me?"

 

[Russ]

Don't hold your breath people. They invented the concept of CHOKE. They've been doing it for 23 years; this season will be no different.

Russ, NCNE

 

[NakaNaka]

I dunno. You don't think pitchers have studied Ichiro (or Suzuki or whatever you want to call him). They have yet he continues to play well. And yes the Yanks are the team to beat but they still have a great team. It's funny how people are so negative.

I want them to win it all to prove you guys wrong. What so a team that has re vitalized their lineup has to follow with what they did with players that have been gone for years??

And I wouldn't say the Mariners choked last year Russ they lost to the Yanks in 6 games in the AL Championship.

And they swept the White Sox, best record in the AL.

 

[SuperCyrix]

will, I'm just hoping somebody will finally stop the Yanks this season. Sports has gotten kinda boring for most people. During the past few seasons, it's been
yanks yanks yanks
Strong chance of Lakers, Lakers, Lakers after the Bullz bullz bullz.

 

[huey1124]

Mariners have a great bullpen, and that will get them far into the season. How many saves does Sasaki already have?
Mariners doing what they're doing after losing Randy Johnson, Griffey, and Rodriguez... it's amazing.

 

[NakaNaka]

Mariners win again last night ...

Yes they are so bad only have swept the last 4 straight series and are one win away from tieing the longest winning streak in ML history since '78

 

[Stallion]

I am an avid mariner hater but only because of how we got screwed with the new stadium. We (I) voted no and yet the retards still wiggled it past. They went over budget then cried like babies that they didn't want to pay up.

So my course of action was to root for any team that they might be playing?

And like mustangman said, who cares if you go 140-22. If you can't get it done in the post season then all you had was a good year.

 

[juiio]

<< Don't hold your breath people. They invented the concept of CHOKE. They've been doing it for 23 years; this season will be no different.

Russ, NCNE >>



You must be talking about some other team. The Mariners don't have any history of choking.

The first 15 or so years, they were just bad (And should have been bad). The team was not expected to do anything. No choking involved there.

1995, they were 13 games out of first place in August, yet came all the way back to tie the Angels at the end of the season. They won the one game playoff to take the division crown. That was the first year that they were in contention at hte end of the season, and they won the division. No choking there.

In the 1995 playoffs, they played New York. New York won the first two games at Yankee Stadium. Seattle took the next three (including an extra inning game and winning hte final game in the last at-bat in the 9th inning) to win the series. No choking there. They were overmatched in the next series against Cleveland, so no one expected them to win, so losing that series could hardly be called choking.

In 1997, the second year that they were in contention at the end of the year, they maintained their lead over the rest of the division and won the AL West. No choking there. Again they weren't expected to win their playoff series, so their loss could not be considered a choke.

In the 2000 playoffs, they swept the White Sox in 3 games. No choke there. They lost to the Yankees in 6 games, but it was not a choke.

So what, pray tell, is their history of choking? The only thing remotely close is when the A's won the division in 2000. However when the A's go 40-15 in the last 55 games (approximately), and the Mariners win 60% of their games at the same time, you can't call that a choke.