How fast of a Celeron CPU can I use on this BX board?

jrichrds

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I thought I had cleared this up for myself a while back, but now that it's time to actually buy the chip, I've gotten confused again.

I have an Asus P3B-F Slot 1 motherboard and a Tekram Flipchip-compatible Slotket (came out when Flipchips were first introduced).

My understanding is that the only difference between FC-PGA and FC-PGA2 is the integrated heat spreader on the latter for more efficient cooling. So getting an FC-PGA2 Celeron is no problem as long as I don't get one with the newer Tualatin core.

Now what I can't figure out is at what speed Intel stopped using the older core in the Celeron and switched to the Tualatin core. I had heard I could use up to 1.2Ghz. Newegg, though, lists their 1.0Ghz Celeron as: "Intel Celeron 1000 (1Ghz), 1.0GHz, 0.13 micron FCPGA-2 256K Cache Tualatin"

Are their certain speeds of Intel Celeron chips that have BOTH older core and Tualatin versions? Most online shops don't seem to specifically state newer and older core, so it's getting a little confusing. Don't want to be stuck with a chip I can't use! :)
 

AkumaX

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uh.. lets see... explanation WITHOUT modding:

for your motherboard p3b-f, fastest celeron is 1.1 coppermine 128kb cache fcpga .18u micron.

fcpga2 will NOT work, all fcpga2 for celeron is tualatin (256kb cache, .13u micron)


 

JmsAndrsn

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The Celeron 1.0 & 1.1 are available in both the coppermine variety (128k cache) and the Tualatin variety (256k cache). The Tualatin versions are denoted as being 1.1A and 1.1A in order to tell them apart. If your P3B-F is Rev 1.03 or higher then it is possible to run Tualatins in your board but you need to do a modification.
 

spanky

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u can use a tualatin cpu in a bx board, as long as u have the correct (modified) slotket. :p
 

Doctorweir

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u can use a tualatin cpu in a bx board, as long as u have the correct (modified) slotket
Modding is fun...give old BX the power it deserves :D
Perhaps give it a try and buy a T-Celeron...
But 1.7GHz is the finish line for the Tually core...air cooled :eek:

Regarding the topic: There are indeed FCPGA2-Celerons with Coppermine(.18u)-Cores: 1.0 and 1.1 the T-Cellys are labeled 1.0A and 1.1A as said before...most difficult task may be to find a dealer who marks this correctly in his online shop... => Telephone conversation mandatory... ;)