How fast is P4 3.4Ghz than AMD Athlon 3500+

sunilv

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Do you think I made a mistake of getting this for video Editing: (it cost me $1300)

AMD Athlon 64 3500+
1GB OCZ Performance series
200 SATA
Asus A8N SLi deluxe


is this computer going to be very slow at video and encoding?
Does the 64 bit OS help? :(


Thanks in advance
 

kini62

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At present it is (depending on what program you use) 10-40% slower than a P4 3.4 HT. I know. I had one.

But since you already have it, just make do until the dual core chips are available, then you'll be faster than the P4HT, or at least have true SMP, allowing you to encode two streams at once, or whatever you want to do with 2 CPUs.
 

imported_July

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I have both AMD and Intel. Unless your running benchmarks, you really don't notice a big difference between the two, not sure why everyone has to get into a pissing contest when It comes to CPU's. I guess I used to think what ever I had at the time was the best too, but that was when I was a punk teenager. Just buy both, use your AMD for gaming and the Intel for everything else. : )
 

sunilv

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hey

I use Adobe Premiere, After Effects and Photoshop

so you cannot see much of a difference?

can i use one of those "dual core" cpus on my motherboard?

how do they work 2 cpus or 2 in 1 cup with HT?

hopefully they are faster then Intel in video editing :)


thanks
 

Duvie

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I agree with kini to a point.....I think it is more in the 10-20% range...

My 3.5ghz p4 northwood was still slightly faster in a few highly hT aware apps then my 2.66ghz now....Your 2.2ghz would be dwarfed by mine since the cpu tends to scale linearly....Howveer in quite a few apps(video and audio) I have been able to actually best the 3.5ghz with my 2.66ghz.....

I have adobe premier, but I diodn't have it with my P4 so I dont have a direct comparison for that one....

Get a sckt 939 mobo and you should only need a bios flash....NF4 are probably a bit more secure, but if you are not ready to jump to pci-e it will be hard to want to go that route....

dual core will be seen as 2 physical cpus, and form early sneak peeks it scale very very similar to 2 physical cpus.

I actually think AMD will eclipse Intel since INtels first offering of dual core will not have HT and so therefore the crutch Intel has had will be diminished. It made up to 10-20% in many apps today....So basically whatever speed they come out in will be 2 p4 prescott cores at those speeds minus the HT benefits to each chip (10-20%)...then they share the cache where as AMD will not share the l2 cache between the 2 cores....Son in the end the race for video/audio will become more moot, and since most games will not likely take advantage of the multithreaded capabilities not much will change there....

Oh...and Intel p4 dominance in Multitasking will be over as well...
 

sunilv

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ok

thats nice to know that only a bios flash is need for me to switch from
3500+ to THE DUAL CORE ;)

anyone have any idea how much the dual core will cost?
 

tallman45

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Photoshop is optomized for HT.

Aside from that the biggest performance benefit is placing the Swap File on a separate drive that the OS. Get a second drive

The 3500+ is a very fast proc and you are fine
 

gate1975mlm

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Originally posted by: sunilv
ok

thats nice to know that only a bios flash is need for me to switch from
3500+ to THE DUAL CORE ;)

anyone have any idea how much the dual core will cost?

I would say at least $300 or more

 

ribbon13

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Funny you mention Adobe applications. I got a dual Opterons specifically for Photoshop and 3D work. Toledo will be absolutely perfect for what you do.

Note that each core in the Toledo with have it's own cache as well. They will probably be rather expensive, but even if the slowest model is only around 1.8Ghz it will seriously own in photoshop.