Sadly, most men cannot live up to these standards, and thus, would fail their "man-card" finals...
Sadly, most men cannot live up to these standards, and thus, would fail their "man-card" finals...
the is a whole spectrum of answers to this question:
no-date / 1st date <--------> marriage
you arent going to find a solid answer on ATOT, because we are all looking for different things. You will find women on any side of the spectrum, but probably more-so on the right side.
Now whether or not its true that the you wait doesnt matter for good relationships, im not sure.
some guys on here are saying they had sex right after meeting her, and they have been married for 5 years. While I hear lots of others saying, that if you have sex on the first date, the possibility for a real relationship is doomed.
who really knows the truth around here.
no-date / 1st date <--------> marriage
you arent going to find a solid answer on ATOT, because we are all looking for different things. You will find women on any side of the spectrum, but probably more-so on the right side.
Now whether or not its true that the you wait doesnt matter for good relationships, im not sure.
some guys on here are saying they had sex right after meeting her, and they have been married for 5 years. While I hear lots of others saying, that if you have sex on the first date, the possibility for a real relationship is doomed.
who really knows the truth around here.
Well, the last girl I dated long-term, we went out for nearly a year and never had sex. Never went very far, actually. At that point in my life I wasn't too upset by it. How far is appropriate is going to depend entirely on the two of you. Each person is different and something as intimate and personal as sexuality is something that can't be measured or judged by a hard-and-fast rule (har!). Some women I've known (not Biblically, just as friends or occasional dates) will jump a guy's bones on the first date, if the cards are right. Other women waited for years, and many just waited for a few weeks or a few months until they were comfortable enough with the guy to take that next step of intimacy.
I'm 23, a virgin, and I don't feel any urgency to lose that status. I'm not waiting for marriage, but I am waiting for a long-term, committed relationship.
By the way, I wouldn't set up any grand designs for your first few dates. You're still getting to know her mentally and emotionally; getting to know her physically should be lower down on your list.
I'm 23, a virgin, and I don't feel any urgency to lose that status. I'm not waiting for marriage, but I am waiting for a long-term, committed relationship.
By the way, I wouldn't set up any grand designs for your first few dates. You're still getting to know her mentally and emotionally; getting to know her physically should be lower down on your list.
Geekbabe
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Originally posted by: ultimatebob
We REALLY need more female opinions on this. Where are GeekBabe and LolaWiz when you need them?
Oh, right, it's Saturday night. They're probably getting laid, unlike most of the folks giving advice in this thread
ROTFLMAO !!!!
Haha, wife shopping. Kudos on the funny.
My current GF of 2years, we had hardly spoken to each other at all, but it came about that we were both interested in seeing each other as a means of sexual gratification, so i guess technically, the first date.
It turned out we get on really well, so 2 years later, here we are. This was a bit of a fluke though, I mean, I had another 'girlfriend' of about 2 weeks, sure, she put out, but then it turned out that I didn't really get on with her mentally, and goddamn her friends were fürking annoying...
Just see how it goes, it's not scientific, we can't say to you, yeah if you have sex on the first date, you're guaranteed to be super love up forever more, or anything else. Just see how it goes. Be yourself, and be open.
ultimatebob
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One key point that most guys have seem to forget here is that the woman has just much say (in many cases, more so!) as the man does on when she wants to start having sex. Just because folks like Spidey follow the three date rule doesn't mean that the women that they date are going to think in a likewise manner. If you're sincerely "wife shopping" and not just looking for a booty call, you should keep that in mind before giving up on a woman so quickly.
That said, I would never date someone who believes in no sex before marriage. The thought of making a lifelong commitment with someone only to find out that we're sexually incompatible should scare the hell out of any rational person.
While I agree with the whole "going with the flow" mentality, I actually get less attracted to a girl if she "puts out" too soon. Although it's flattering to be considered attractive by the opposite sex, I think part of the attraction sometimes is the mystery of what's to come (har har). Or I just get bored easily. Blah.
I'd agree, except for the way they dress in the summer and the stories here of them having sex on the first date. So I guess they are objects
alkemyst
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it's 3 dates or less if you are looking.
if you are hoping for your next wife at date #1, then YMMV.
When I am dating, I am looking for sex/fun. If it is not happening I move on.
When I am looking for a g/f...I look back and hope she put up some resistance.
For those that meet a hot chick in their 20's/30's and really think she has only been with 5 guys despite not having any 'live-in' history are delusional.
if you are hoping for your next wife at date #1, then YMMV.
When I am dating, I am looking for sex/fun. If it is not happening I move on.
When I am looking for a g/f...I look back and hope she put up some resistance.
For those that meet a hot chick in their 20's/30's and really think she has only been with 5 guys despite not having any 'live-in' history are delusional.
Originally posted by: alkemyst
it's 3 dates or less if you are looking.
if you are hoping for your next wife at date #1, then YMMV.
When I am dating, I am looking for sex/fun. If it is not happening I move on.
When I am looking for a g/f...I look back and hope she put up some resistance.
For those that meet a hot chick in their 20's/30's and really think she has only been with 5 guys despite not having any 'live-in' history are delusional.
meeting their next wife at date one? lol, you mean having sex with them at date one?
i cant imagine anyone trying to meet their wife that quickly.
don't kiss on the first date! 2nd or 3rd!
and d00d it ALL depends on the girl, the situation, why you are going out with them, why they are going out with you, where you see the whole relationship going, etc.
i have been with girls where we slept together the first or 2nd night, and i have been with someone where we didn't sleep together for a year and a half
and d00d it ALL depends on the girl, the situation, why you are going out with them, why they are going out with you, where you see the whole relationship going, etc.
i have been with girls where we slept together the first or 2nd night, and i have been with someone where we didn't sleep together for a year and a half
im alright with waiting, as long as its someone i care for, and if they are showing genuine signs of romantic interested. but if i feel that the reason she is taking her time, is because she isnt as into me as she may be some other guy, then forget it, im leaving.
unfortunately when keeping this in mind its very difficult to find a Christian woman to date, since the vast majority of them want to wait until marriage.
Alright but Im not sure you're going to be happy with what I shoot you with.... Close your eyes and open your mouth...
alkemyst
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majority of christian women wait?
Times are a lot different than they were 15 years ago when I was in HS, and I did two private christian high school / weekly church girls.
I don't know many in any religion in South Florida waiting much past late teens/early 20's if even that long.
This is with curent g/f.
First date; October 20 = hug
kissing a few days later
her shirt off another day later
sex on Ocotber 31
Last girlfirend became my wife.
First date in August
kissing in September
sex in December
She was still in high school, btw.
First date; October 20 = hug
kissing a few days later
her shirt off another day later
sex on Ocotber 31
Last girlfirend became my wife.
First date in August
kissing in September
sex in December
She was still in high school, btw.
I just remember things like that. It's not like it was 30 years ago. I have had a small number of women who gave me 'action' in my life and these two are my most recent.
I placed a line between the two so it's easier to understand my post. I was at work when I posted, so I was distracted. Top experience is the current relationship and the bottom one is for the last one. She was my g/f, then we got married. 3 years after we met.
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