How far can HyperX go?

[TheGrandHooHa]

This may be a dumb question (in fact, I'm fairly confident that it is), but I'll ask it anyway...

I've read about some people getting their 2.6c processors up to 3Ghz or 3.25Ghz. Now to get to 3.25, you'd need an FSB of 250. 13 multiplier X 250 fsb. Which translates into DDR running at 500mhz, if my math is correct. So I am assuming that I wouldn't be able to do this with PC3500 HyperX, as that's roughly a 75 mhz overclock, and that's asking a lot.

So, I'd like to know: how far can HyperX be pushed? I am fairly settled on selecting it as my memory, and I'd just like to know how much past the stock speed I can crank it.

 

[KhoiFather]

Far as your love will let it. :beer:

 

[Budman]

Intel 800 fsb system have memory deviders,so with a fsb of 250 you can run your ram at 166mhz or 200mhz or 1:1 250mhz.

 

[stonecold3169]

Before people flame me, as they have another member, I would avoid hyperX memory like the plague.

I picked up a 3200/512 stick of hyperX, and it will not load windows at all on stock voltage with any timings. In order to post I need to set the mem to at least 2.72V, which is fine, except it still will not reach the correct timings at 200mhz. I don't really want to push it any farther either.

I called Tech support, and they recently hanged chip providers. Their tech was top notch, btw. He gave me his cell phone number and everything, their hyperX support I guess takes things more seriously then the valueram segment. Anyways, he said that he has been hearing a lot of this same problem in newer shipments, and that the problem should be resolved soon. He said that he would give me a call back when he knew what was up with it. He even told me to check sandra to see what it reported maximum mem timings at, and he wasn't suprised to hear that it was only CL2 up to ~170mhz, CL2.5 up to 199. Reported chip maker as Kingston, not Winbond like my older hyperX stick.

 

[TheGrandHooHa]

Originally posted by: Budman
Intel 800 fsb system have memory deviders,so with a fsb of 250 you can run your ram at 166mhz or 200mhz or 1:1 250mhz.

Is that what the 5:4 and other ratios mean? I haven't built a system in 2 years, and the last time I did, ratios weren't talked about nearly as much (if at all)...

So if I wanted a 250 FSB, what would be a suggested ratio? I realize that each stick is different, but for the purposes of having a starting point...

 

[WaTaGuMp]

Originally posted by: TheGrandHooHa

Originally posted by: Budman
Intel 800 fsb system have memory deviders,so with a fsb of 250 you can run your ram at 166mhz or 200mhz or 1:1 250mhz.

Is that what the 5:4 and other ratios mean? I haven't built a system in 2 years, and the last time I did, ratios weren't talked about nearly as much (if at all)...

So if I wanted a 250 FSB, what would be a suggested ratio? I realize that each stick is different, but for the purposes of having a starting point...

Its trial and error you try the 1:1 first and see what you can get stable higher.

Then try 5:4 and see if you get higher fsb, the lower timings in most cases allow for higher fsb for overclocking.

 

[TheGrandHooHa]

Okay, that makes it a bit clearer now. Thanks for clearing that up.

-tghh

 

[boyRacer]

Originally posted by: KhoiFather
Far as your love will let it. :beer:

😀

 

[TheGrandHooHa]

OK, here's another noobish memory question:

Would it be faster to run the DDR at 500mhz with loose timings (possibly CL 2.5 or even 3) or to run at 434mhz with tight timings (2-2-2-5?).

Also, anyone who can shed a tad more light on the 1:1, 5:4 stuff (or point me to a guide or something) ... I'd appreciate it.

Thanks again,
TGHH

 

[jdogg707]

I have heard from a lot of people that running a speed of 434 with tight timings vs. 500 and loose timings, the 434 will win. Because most PC4000 (500MHZ) has timings of 3-4-4-8.....

 

[TheGrandHooHa]

Ah, okay... so if my FSB was at 250, I'd need a less-than-1:1 ratio to get the RAM running at 434 then , right? And once I got it back down near 434, I could tighten the timings. Am I making any sense at all?