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how early do people go out for Black Friday?!

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Two good deals I saw were the 256 MB mp3 player for 30 and the 160gb WD harddrive for 30 (both after rebates), this was at Best Buy or Circuit City, I don't remember
 
Nothing is really worth it this year.....except fot The Godfather Collection on DVD for $30 at Fry's Electronics...in which I could probably pricematch to Circuit City and get it for $27.99 before tax.
 
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