How does my 5950U 256MB AGP stand up to recent games?

lunchm3at

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Im having a hard time figuring out where my current card fits with todays newer offerings... Ive been told that the 5950U is pretty much the same as a 6800NU... is that the case? How does it stand up to current "value" cards?

I havent gamed for a good while and Im wondering if I should build up a new gamer (PCIE) or stick with my old box. Im a pretty light gamer.. but the 5950U seems pretty stressed running FEAR.

FYI:
The rest of my gamer setup is a Mobile Celly 1.8@3ghz, 1GB ram and 80GB ide disk

If I do decide to trade up whats the value ($ or trade) of the 5950U?

Thanks in advance for any opinions...
 

imported_Kiwi

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The Celeron will be more of a detriment than the old video card. That is really weak. The FXes have a huge defect in Dx9, regarding the 24-Bit precision of Shader Model Two. nVidia jumped past that at first, gambling on getting software publishers to follow their lead. It didn't happen, so when any game is not OpenGL, look out. Your rig will just fall on its face in Oblivion, for instance. I can't tell you what anyone might pay for that 5950, but I bought a 5900 Plain about a year ago for $80, so I imagine you can find them selling on eBay now for maybe $50 by now.
 

Munky

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All the Nvidia 5xxx series cards had subpar DX9 performance even when they were new, 3 years ago. In modern games, it's even worse - it's nowhere near the performance level of a 6800. I would recommend building a new rig, because not only is your cpu not that great for gaming, but also because PCIe cards are priced much better than AGP cards. For about $150 you can get a 7600gt, which will be about 300% faster than your 5950U.
 

lunchm3at

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Wow! thanks for the replies....

So where is the current "budget" sweetspot? Early A64(2800?) Sempron? and is it still pretty controversial abt who is on top in GFX cards? (ATI vs NV)
 

Bradtechonline

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Lunch, I currently own a Chaintech Geforce FX 5900xt which is slower than the 5950. THe only games that eat my card for breakfest are Oblivion, and F.E.A.R that Ive played. Doom 3 and Quake 4 were very playable for 95% of the game. The only time I experienced lag was the final boss, and places where I had a ton of enemies on me.

I would get 40-60 fps constant throughout the game in 1024x768 in high. I could have a solid 60 fps in Doom 3 in 1024x768 if I disabled Shadows. The shadows were a big differencem aker. I went from 512 MB ram to 1.5 GB of ram and it felt like I upgraded my videocard when I started playing.

There are other games out there that probabaly will eat the Fx5900 apart that I have not played such as BF2.

I play

quake2, quake 3, Doom 3, Quake 4, Silkroadonline, and just started playing Fable which runs perfect.

FEAR and Oblivion both were pretty much unplayable with my card. You got to ask yourself what game you are wanting to play. If you are playing older games then it will work great. If you are wanting to play anything newer than Doom3/Quake 4 I would take another route.

I got a PCI Express Motherboard, and Power Supply sitting next to my new case waiting for a video card. I want to play oblivion and fear so I am upgrading!

 

imported_Kiwi

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Not being a fan of shooter software, the only thing I would use from FEAR would be any built-in benchmarking segment.

Oblivion has literally been the first game I can recall that I've played that I ever had second thoughts about whether my hardware was capable of handling it. I started a first test here on this XP 3000 PC (Asus A7N8X), with the already named FX 5900 Plain. In the beginner dungeon, everything was particularly dingy and dark, but the frame rate was fine. I did run into an early conflict with the 77.xx series of ForceWare I had, requiring a driver update to even start the Character Generator.

When the new Cooler Master Centurion box arrived, I reassembled the game box from last year {Abit NF7, XP-M 2600 Mobile, a GB of PC 3200 RAM, and a Radeon 9800 XT (which idled at 70 Celcius!)} I needed a separate PCI sound card in order to get the game to start on that PC, and had to back off on the OC setting from XP 3200 core speed, to XP 3000 core speed. The look of the starter dungeon was sharper, more realistic, and everything about the game seemed better.

Comparing the outdoors among four cards that I've tested now, the FX 5900 wasn't great, but the image quality was better than with a GF 6600 GT. I understand that the 6600 GT's 128 MB of onboard RAM caused that, with smaller textures compared to the large textures that the FX 5900's 256 MB of RAM handle. My granddaughter's PC was here about when I got a new X800 XTPE for the game system, and I tested some saves from the game system on her FX 5600 U equipped machine. The indoors look and frame rate was not that much worse than with the faster FX card, and the outdoors was still better looking than with the 6600 GT (especially the water around City Isle), but the 5600 was deathly slow outdoors.

Inside Imperial City, the FX 5900 and GF 6600 GT seem about equal in image quality, with the 6600 GT having a touch better frame rate (the two CPU's are close in performance, but the game box has the full GB of RAM -- this one has half of that). The X800 hasn't hiccoughed anywhere other than staring into an Oblivion Gate (although it runs pretty hot -- Sapphire didn't use a particularly efficient HSF). But the FX 5600 Ultra was standing still in the City, its frame rate was so poor (part of that blame has to be on the XP 2200 CPU). So far, I haven't run any high-demand test with either a low-level FX, or the Leadtek 6600 GT, in the deep woods. My 9800 XT and X800 were fine there, but the FX 5900 literally died in its tracks when the forest became dense.
 

avi85

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Originally posted by: lunchm3at
Wow! thanks for the replies....

So where is the current "budget" sweetspot? Early A64(2800?) Sempron? and is it still pretty controversial abt who is on top in GFX cards? (ATI vs NV)

I would say early A64
if you want to go with DDR2 then you can get the AM2 3000+ for about $70-$75, the 3500+ is about $85-$90 if you want to stick with your DDR (which is a good idea if you're on a tight budget) then you could get 939's