how does fiorina even have the nerve to run?

Vette73

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I dunno, think of the Money Saved by Outsourcing Government Bureaucracy.


Yes republicans tried that when they had control of congress. Take a guess what, it cost more.

Right now I am converting 3rd party contract people over to staright up gov contracts (i.e. cutting out the middle man). Saves a pile of money.
 

OBLAMA2009

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Rightwingers think government layoffs are a good thing.
im all for that. gov has too many employees and they are paid too much, but it has no incentive to get a grip on that since it can always borrow more/raise taxes
 

werepossum

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Wow, you guys must have been already greased up and in the circle for this one!

I look forward to your post on Governor Moonbeam's historic job creation in the private sector, which I am sure will be equally riveting.
 

Craig234

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Here's how Republican politics basically works on this.

Republic politician: "I want to pass laws that benefit the rich at the expense of the public. They're paying the bills for my side."

Campaign strategist: You can't say that. The people won't vote for you, and you still need their votes.

Instead, say that you want to pass the law and that it'll be great for the public.

We'll put up the flood of ads spinning 'the big lie' and convince many people it's true, and the public has already been softened to accept the lie by right-wing propaganda.

Republican politician. "OK. I want to pass tax cuts for the rich that will make the public rich!"

Republic Consultant: there you go.

That's why you have Meg Whitman's ad I watched today say she is for 'creating jobs, cutting wasteful spending' - ha, that one never is worn out after decades - and that's all she has to say about her agenda, strangely silent on things like her plan to eliminate all taxes on the passive income billionares like her get most of their money from.

Hm, will that create jobs? No, it'll cost jobs. Will that 'cut wasteful spending'? No, just increase the deficit and/or cut 'good' spending that is the kind that actually gets cut.

It's amazing what Republicans say that's the opposite to deny what they're doing.

Environmental laws cause pollution, safety laws reduce safety, assistance for the poor empoverishes the poor, increases in education worsen education, increases in healthcare make healthcare poorer quality and harder to get, oppressing other countries decreases the chances of war, registering more voters hurts democracy, and so on.
 

Greenman

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Rightwingers think government layoffs are a good thing.

Government layoff's are a good thing. Government produces nothing, it adds no value to anything. Government is a parasite, and it's growth needs to be strictly controlled. Believe it or not, society can survive without an army of bureaucrats herding us like sheep.
 

sandorski

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Government layoff's are a good thing. Government produces nothing, it adds no value to anything. Government is a parasite, and it's growth needs to be strictly controlled. Believe it or not, society can survive without an army of bureaucrats herding us like sheep.

Fail.
 

spidey07

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HP had more jobs than when she started, huffpo is being deliberately misleading or outright lying.
 

Throckmorton

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Government layoff's are a good thing. Government produces nothing, it adds no value to anything. Government is a parasite, and it's growth needs to be strictly controlled. Believe it or not, society can survive without an army of bureaucrats herding us like sheep.

Good luck saving your house without the Fire Department when you set it on fire by burning trash in barrels.
 

ayabe

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HP had more jobs than when she started, huffpo is being deliberately misleading or outright lying.

Yes, she was forced out because the rest of HP couldn't handle her awesomeness.
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She doesn't need nerve to run, this woman is just bored and needs attention, since she no longer has to worry about working for a living.
 

Craig234

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Government layoff's are a good thing. Government produces nothing, it adds no value to anything. Government is a parasite, and it's growth needs to be strictly controlled. Believe it or not, society can survive without an army of bureaucrats herding us like sheep.

No, you're an ideologue who doesn't have a clue, who takes one small thing and misrepresents it by great exaggeration.

In fact, our society benefits greatly from all kinds of government - some increasing productivity, some increasing quality of life, etc.

You're very ignorant IMO.

Of course, we need government 'for the people', healthy democracy - something your side fights all the time.

Instead, your side falls for right-wing ideology and hurts the public for the rich.
 

Craig234

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Yes, she was forced out because the rest of HP couldn't handle her awesomeness.
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She doesn't need nerve to run, this woman is just bored and needs attention, since she no longer has to worry about working for a living.

You know, how she did as CEO isn't that much of an issue compared to how she'd do as governor - which woudl be disastrous unrelated to her CEO time, but for her policies.

But the public seems to fixate on the less relevant issue of her as CEO.

It's as if a quarterback ran for governor, and the debate was between the good things he did as quarterback so he should be governor, and the bad things so he shouldn't.

"He was third in the league at getting intercepted - that's not competence for governor!"

She is going to have some good CEO qualifications to have had the position. The question is, about her policies.

On that, she has a billionare's agenda, and that's not good.
 

spidey07

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Hey craig, this should freak you out. She's running for US Senate so she'll have much more power than a governor over the entire country.
 

nyker96

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I am just wondering, how someone soooo wealthy can relate to the everyday workers who is going to vote for her. I mean her life is nothing like the average person. I think she is adapt at getting loads of cash for herself, how to lobby congress for businesses, those talents I believe, but when she claims she can think for and little people, it's a bit unbelievable for me.
 

OBLAMA2009

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I am just wondering, how someone soooo wealthy can relate to the everyday workers who is going to vote for her. I mean her life is nothing like the average person. I think she is adapt at getting loads of cash for herself, how to lobby congress for businesses, those talents I believe, but when she claims she can think for and little people, it's a bit unbelievable for me.

i dont even consider her talented. she mostly got lucky because lew platt wanted to hire a woman as his successor. she managed to bag a lot of money from them (yeah, good for her, im all in favor of people grabbing as much money as they can) but that doesnt mean she is intelligent or qualified to be a good senator. but mostly she proved she is a selfish person who doesnt care about other people, which makes her morally unqualified in my book