How does anyone actually get a job?

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Rakehellion

Rakehellion

Lifer
Jan 15, 2013
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Doesn't HR just throw out 99% of applications without even reading them? And assuming you do get your foot in the door, they're looking for someone with more experience who's willing to work for less money because they just laid off a third of their staff last week.

Seriously, how does anyone get employed ever?
 
ultimatebob

ultimatebob

Lifer
Jul 1, 2001
25,134
2,450
126
Rakehellion said:
Doesn't HR just throw out 99% of applications without even reading them? And assuming you do get your foot in the door, they're looking for someone with more experience who's willing to work for less money because they just laid off a third of their staff last week.

Seriously, how does anyone get employed ever?
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You need to know someone who works there, usually.
 
purbeast0

purbeast0

No Lifer
Sep 13, 2001
53,424
6,270
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ultimatebob said:
You need to know someone who works there, usually.
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not true at all.

on the flip side it's annoying when you talk to HR people who are screening you and they try to talk about technology and have absolutely no clue wtf they are talking about or what your responses even mean, but they just write it down anyways to get it to the right person.

i was actually talking to a recruiter last night in san diego who asked me what i'm looking to make and i told him, then he told me that probably isn't likely and i then told him i'm not going to take a pay cut to live somewhere that has a higher cost of living than where i live now. he then went to tell me that san diego doesn't have a higher cost of living than where i currently live (around the DC metro area), and i specifically told him when i was out there i looked at house prices and to get a comparable to what i own it would be about $200k - $300k more than the house i live in now (which was $419k).

he then told me 'oh well if you're buying a house then sure they are more expensive' ... wtf does he think "cost of living" means then? i even told him my friend who lives out there pays more in his rent than i pay in mortgage and his house is about 600sqft smaller than mine.
 
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Drako

Drako

Lifer
Jun 9, 2007
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I've never had a problem finding a job.

Then again, I have marketable skills that are in demand. :hmm:
 
Newell Steamer

Newell Steamer

Diamond Member
Jan 27, 2014
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HR and Recruiters are some of the most clueless and idiotic people on the face of the planet, for all time, across all space and existence.

I am better off going out and looking for the people I need myself.

If I ask for a candidate with 10 yrs experience in marketing and sales, HR will bring me a pastry chef who is on a work release program that can hardly speak English.
 
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nageov3t

Lifer
Feb 18, 2004
42,808
83
91
every job I've had but 2 were obtained through either professional or personal contacts.
 
brianmanahan

brianmanahan

Lifer
Sep 2, 2006
24,526
5,931
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this is how i have gotten all of my jobs

1. turn on computer
2. open up web browser
3. surf to google.com
4. search for "java jobs near cleveland"
5. look through list of jobs until i see one that is interesting
6. send in application and resume to company offering interesting job
7. hear back from HR at company, set up interview
8. attend interview, dress fancy, wow them with knowledge
9. receive and accept job offer
10. begin working at company on agreed date
11. profit
 
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s0me0nesmind1

Lifer
Nov 8, 2012
20,842
4,785
146
brianmanahan said:
this is how i have gotten all of my jobs

1. turn on computer
2. open up web browser
3. surf to google.com
4. search for "java jobs near cleveland"
5. look through list of jobs until i see one that is interesting
6. send in application and resume to company offering interesting job
7. hear back from HR at company, set up interview
8. attend interview, dress fancy, wow them with knowledge
9. receive and accept job offer
10. begin working at company on agreed date
11. profit
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What? No negotiating for a better salary? Fail! :colbert:


On a personal note:
Job #1: First job out of college. Shot fish in a barrel and applied to everything. Found this one on my own. Probably applied for ~50 jobs, interviewed for ~5 total and got shot down leading up to this one.
Job #2: Was able to get someone to put a decent word in for me. It still went through HR, Interviews, etc...
Job #3: HR Recruiter came to me via LinkedIn. Still had to apply and interview, etc... Either way, I'm at the point where my previous work history will get my foot in the door. No references needed.
 
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vi edit

vi edit

Elite Member
Super Moderator
Oct 28, 1999
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Helps having unique skills. I could get a job offer tomorrow if I wanted to go the consulting route. I do heathcare IT stuff and the types of applications and workflows I know are not common. Especially when looked at as a whole...I'm a hybrid that can do the jobs of two different analyst types. I get recruited daily to do implementations and migrations.
 
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cliftonite

Diamond Member
Jul 15, 2001
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63
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vi edit said:
Helps having unique skills. I could get a job offer tomorrow if I wanted to go the consulting route. I do heathcare IT stuff and the types of applications and workflows I know are not common. Especially when looked at as a whole...I'm a hybrid that can do the jobs of two different analyst types. I get recruited daily to do implementations and migrations.
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I am in healthcare IT as well. Do you work on Epic?
 
Ns1

Ns1

No Lifer
Jun 17, 2001
55,419
1,599
126
damnit, n/m

too hateful today.
 
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BurnItDwn

BurnItDwn

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
26,262
1,764
126
I dont know, I got a job when I was 16 part time, and just move around every few years in the company.
 
Svnla

Svnla

Lifer
Nov 10, 2003
17,986
1,388
126
How I found my job(s)?

1. College career center.
2. A friend works for the company.
3. Company's webpage.
 
Red Squirrel

Red Squirrel

No Lifer
May 24, 2003
69,511
13,193
126
www.anyf.ca
ultimatebob said:
You need to know someone who works there, usually.
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Pretty much this, and even then it can be hard. Though it really depends what your skill set is and where you live. Some places are better than others for certain types of jobs. There's really not much in tech here but I did get a good job at the phone company so I consider myself pretty lucky.

These days there's simply not enough decent livable wage permanent full time jobs for everyone though. There are constant mass layoffs but you never hear of mass employment. You never hear of a new company opening it's doors and having to hire 20,000 people, but it's common for a company to get bought out and to lay off 20,000 people. It happens way too much now.
 
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