How does a vacumm tube work on a that AOpen mobo?

The0iL

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Does it work like this

Source (Mp3) -> Player -> Vacumm tube -> Onboard sound card -> Output?

Or

Source (Mp3) -> Player -> Onboard sound card -> Vacumm tube -> Output?
 

Visual

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I would assume that it is part of the integrated sound card, not before or after it but into it.
The sound card has some way to amplify the sound signal, and thats where those guys are using the tube instead of plain transistors I guess.

But I don't understand anything about electronics, audio or anything related, so i may be wrong here.
 

KF

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As a guess, the tube is probably the output stage.

Whatever the digital source is, it goes to a digital to analog converter, which is the central function a sound card performs.

MP3 is an encoding/compression format which is most likely decoded by a program run by the CPU into 16 parallel bits that get
sent to the soundchip, then to be converted to "analog", a voltage. Most likely the level from the D to A converter is enough to drive an amplifier, but the straight output would contain aliased components which need to be filtered out. The steps that are present in the raw D to A output have content which is was not present in the original source. Without filtering it would sound odd and could possibly even damage high frequency speakers due the large amount of very high frequency sound. It is possible a tube with a limited frequency response could be very effective in getting rid of the unwanted content, and sound very good as well. Tubes which have only a watt or two output can be operated "class A " very easily and have better linearity than a simple transistor amplifier.
 

The0iL

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Wow
Thanks for the reply..

Is there any tube soundcard out there or a device to connect an output of a soundcard to a tube thingi?

Wanna hear how it sounds
:p
 

RickH

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I just had a thought for all you "kids" that have never seen a tube TV or receiver. Tubes require 6-12 volts for a heater (great now I need another fan) to produce electrons and a high voltage (100s or 1000s of volts DC) to attract the electrons off the filament to the positively charged plate. All this sounds like a bad idea on a motherboard. R
 

KF

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Although tubes were already non-economical when I learned electronics, they were still hanging around, the books still focused a lot on tubes, and that is what the teachers knew and loved. Naturally I've forgotten just about all of it, but I'm trying to remember. Although tubes can handle 100s or 1000s of volts without difficulty, the usual plate voltage in an old radio was around 100. I think that was simply a convenient voltage because that is around the US line voltage. Radios often operated without a transformer, or only a filament transformer, so a voltage around the line voltage was convenient, minus some for the ripple filter in the power supply. Although tubes can be built to use lower voltages, there was no particular reason to do so. I believe portable radios (using batteries) used lower voltages. I'm sure tubes can be designed to use 12V as long as the output power is small.

Although operating at a low voltage is now the norm, it was a difficult problem for transistors when they were new. For one thing, all components were designed with the parameters of tubes in mind, and those for transistors were very non-standard values and therefore expensive. For another transistors were super-sensitive to over-voltage. One microsecond and they are gone.
 

MatthewF01

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I would figure that the tube would be put to use as it is used in a guitar amplifier tube head.

Sound processed through tube pre-amp, then signal boost and output.


er somethin' like that..