Just curious because many companies say that they can find out, but how would they know if you've never physically altered the video card, motherboard or cpu?
How does a company find out if you've overclocked?
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They could be BSing you because I don't think that there would be any physical damage done onto the parts that they can find out about unless it's something REAL big like a burn mark or a missing chip or something that has something soldered on to it???
Jeff7181
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Well... besides the obvious modification of the bridges that use to be required... I'm sure they don't check every instance... but I would assume a CPU damaged from overclocking shows different signs of failure than a CPU that just happened to be bad, or failed on it's own. They would also check for the presence of the PCM (phase change material) that you're supposed to use with Retail processors... if they don't find it, it means you didn't use it, and your warranty is void.
Whether they can tell or not, I personally wouldn't RMA a component that I killed myself by trying to overclock. OCing comes with inherent risks. Too many people throw caution to the wind and attempt something extreme just because they saw so-and-so post that it worked for them. Not all chips/video cards/memory overclock the same, even with exact stepping/brand/model.
Nowadays, there are detailed steps in forums like this one on how to go about overclocking safely; as well as temperature and voltage monitors to ensure that the changes you are making aren't immediately life-threatening to any component. And then there's the numerous stress-testing programs that will determine if those safe changes have caused instability to the point that your components are causing errors during operation.
If you follow all of those steps and pieces of advice, it should be rare to damage any hardware. Though, still, if it happens, bite the bullet, and file it away as a gamble that didn't pay off; a double-down on 11 that didn't toss you a face card. RMAing something you broke is like having sex with a gorilla-- sure, it's fun, but you just end up getting hurt.
deadseasquirrel
Nowadays, there are detailed steps in forums like this one on how to go about overclocking safely; as well as temperature and voltage monitors to ensure that the changes you are making aren't immediately life-threatening to any component. And then there's the numerous stress-testing programs that will determine if those safe changes have caused instability to the point that your components are causing errors during operation.
If you follow all of those steps and pieces of advice, it should be rare to damage any hardware. Though, still, if it happens, bite the bullet, and file it away as a gamble that didn't pay off; a double-down on 11 that didn't toss you a face card. RMAing something you broke is like having sex with a gorilla-- sure, it's fun, but you just end up getting hurt.
deadseasquirrel
This is why I only overclock with no physical changes to the equipment. Also, in my case, I never exceed the default voltage of the equipment either. My 3000+ retail, with stock hsf is doing 11.5x200fsb = 2305Mhz under these conditions.
that was my whole question.... I want to know how they can tell even if you've never phyically altered it, say even software mod with no phyisical damage... how would they know?
or are they bullshitting us?
or are they bullshitting us?
Only instance I know them actually knowing was several video card companies had some kind of non-volitile ram that actually stored changes in its operating speed.
Other than that the process of actually finding out wouldn't probably be cost effective, but it is cost effective for them to accuse someone based on their buying and RMA habits and try to get them to confess (would be my guess). Processor's rarely fail, except due to improper installation or other failed parts (which excludes the processor manufacturer from blame, but not the manufacturer of the part that failed - technically, but the likelihood of a powersupply company replacing the parts one of their powersupplies cooked when it died is pretty low).
Honestly though, if you overclock then you need to just learn to accept your own risk and eat the cost of parts your reckless behavior caused.
Other than that the process of actually finding out wouldn't probably be cost effective, but it is cost effective for them to accuse someone based on their buying and RMA habits and try to get them to confess (would be my guess). Processor's rarely fail, except due to improper installation or other failed parts (which excludes the processor manufacturer from blame, but not the manufacturer of the part that failed - technically, but the likelihood of a powersupply company replacing the parts one of their powersupplies cooked when it died is pretty low).
Honestly though, if you overclock then you need to just learn to accept your own risk and eat the cost of parts your reckless behavior caused.
No, I understood you jeff.... I was actually refering to squirrel and pada's post, because they were talking about the situation where poeple do phyically mod stuff and I never said that I did that. I'll just 'fess up and jump out of the hypothetical:
I bought a pny ti4400 with lifetime warranty and all of the sudden my card heats up like crazy, I mean super hot within 30 seconds. It'll boot the system but when temps get really high the video card checkerboards, then turns off. I've never overclocked my video card but my concern is that the heat problem is so bad that it might appear that I oc'ed. I still have everything stock on other and I've taken extreme care of that card by air blowing it out twice a month.
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