How do your arteries not instantly clog on the atkins diet?

conjur

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Jesus Christ.

How about reading about Atkins?


There's only been a bazillion threads up here about it.

It's NOT the meat and cheese diet.
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Lager

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Originally posted by: FortFunFoSho
OK well I was inspired by the other thread titles.

So nobody knows?

Yes, your arteries will clog and you will have sexual side effects like pre-ejaculation.
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conjur

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Originally posted by: FortFunFoSho
OK well I was inspired by the other thread titles.

So nobody knows?

Why the fvck would my arteries get clogged from eating vegetables, fish, lean beef and chicken; drinking plenty of water; and some fruit??
 

Feldenak

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Originally posted by: FortFunFoSho
OK well I was inspired by the other thread titles.

So nobody knows?

Maybe you could try reading the book and perhaps doing your own damn research on this "talked to death" topic?
 

Chiropteran

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Despite modern myths, you are not what you eat.

Eating foods high in cholesterol doesn't automatically raise your cholesterol anymore than eating protein gives you muscle mass without lifting.
 

Babbles

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I think Atkins and Low Carb diets in general need their own forum.

Here is a quick answer though, you still eat a low fat diet and the fats you do consume you try to focus on the healthy fats.

So drop the fried chicken, it is not Atkins approved.
 

BaliBabyDoc

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Eating foods high in cholesterol doesn't automatically raise your cholesterol anymore than eating protein gives you muscle mass without lifting.
In general you will develop high serum cholesterol levels from eating a high cholesterol diet . . . particularly if that high cholesterol diet is also high in saturated fats. You will not build muscle on a high protein diet but it will spare muscle (less atrophy) even if you do not lift weights. Excess protein calories are inefficiently converted to fat. That's why it's much easier to get fat on fat than fat on protein . . . but it will happen with time.

Your arteries do not instantly clog on any diet but there's still MINIMAL evidence that Atkins as described in EVERY Atkins book EXCEPT for the last one has positive health benefits beyond simple weight loss. Ultra low calorie, low fat, low-mod protein, high complex carb/whole food diets like Dean Ornish have PROVEN efficacy at not only reducing predictors of future morbidity (coronary artery occlusion) but Ornish also has PROOF of actual decreased morbidity (fewer strokes, fewer heart attacks, decreased severity of both).

Atkins in general is poo. He deserves credit for highlighting the excess consumption of refined sugar products in the American diet but this "carbs is bad, fat be good" message is just plain dumb. Eating an avocado is good despite high levels of saturated fat while eating a coconut is questionable. Eating salmon, mackerel, or tuna is good (Omega-3 hold the mercury) while eating a T-bone is questionable. Bananas have an ugly glycemic index but the typical pear rocks. It's good to eat apples but apple juice is a no no. Margarine (trans fats) are always bad. Flax or olive oils are always good.

Surprise, surprise eating whole food is good for you.
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GermyBoy

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Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
Eating foods high in cholesterol doesn't automatically raise your cholesterol anymore than eating protein gives you muscle mass without lifting.
In general you will develop high serum cholesterol levels from eating a high cholesterol diet . . . particularly if that high cholesterol diet is also high in saturated fats. You will not build muscle on a high protein diet but it will spare muscle (less atrophy) even if you do not lift weights. Excess protein calories are inefficiently converted to fat. That's why it's much easier to get fat on fat than fat on protein . . . but it will happen with time. Your arteries do not instantly clog on any diet but there's still MINIMAL evidence that Atkins as described in EVERY Atkins book EXCEPT for the last one has positive health benefits beyond simple weight loss. Ultra low calorie, low fat, low-mod protein, high complex carb/whole food diets like Dean Ornish have PROVEN efficacy at not only reducing predictors of future morbidity (coronary artery occlusion) but Ornish also has PROOF of actual decreased morbidity (fewer strokes, fewer heart attacks, decreased severity of both). Atkins in general is poo. He deserves credit for highlighting the excess consumption of refined sugar products in the American diet but this "carbs is bad, fat be good" message is just plain dumb. Eating an avocado is good despite high levels of saturated fat while eating a coconut is questionable. Eating salmon, mackerel, or tuna is good (Omega-3 hold the mercury) while eating a T-bone is questionable. Bananas have an ugly glycemic index but the typical pear rocks. It's good to eat apples but apple juice is a no no. Margarine (trans fats) are always bad. Flax or olive oils are always good. Surprise, surprise eating whole food is good for you.
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Ever wonder why whole grain foods are good for you? It's because they actually have less sugar in them.

I would like to see this PROVEN method by Dean Ornish. Ever see those 600lbs people on Jerry springer? Wonder if they got fat from Atkins? Not a all. And no, it's only 3% genetic, the rest is not being able to fvcking control themselves.
 

shiftomnimega

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Basic bio.

You need more carbs than either fat or protein since carbs are one's quick energy. They are what one uses to sprint away from tigers or irritated wives whatever the case may be.

Fat is good since it has 3 times the potential energy yield than either carbs or protein. So if you want to work out for longer than 20 minutes, yeah eat a LITTLE fat... preferably the non saturated type.

Protein is the last reserve when it comes to one's body. Protein makes up one's muscles, hair, teeth... one's whole body. For the body to go to protein for energy is like desperation... images of holocaust victims comes to mind in this case. They were fed next to nothing so the body had to eat itself. Some people get this confused with malnourishment which is what 3rd world countries citizens usually suffer from. Malnourishment is when one gets enough for satiation but not enough for all necessary bodily functions. But I digress...

Atkins diet is good in theory since one surpresses extra carb/sugar intake in place of more protein. This way one's body uses the fat already in the body instead of quick energy carbs (which btw if not used are stored in the body as fat).

Remember when KFC tried to get on the low carb marketing by saying "if you wanna go low carbs high protein eat fried chicken." Yeah, good marketing, bad for your health. The point of atkins is low carb, not high fat. Defeats the purpose if you add to the fat count already in your body.

Anyway, atkins diet is not a forever thing, once you lose the excess weight get off the diet and eat sensibly... and hell, even if you plan to do that most people will fail anyway.

Atkins diet is so strict, want a snickers bar? Too bad. Once you eat that candy you've just screwed the whole deal. Assuming a person is on the atkins diet I will also make the assumption that the person is too lazy to watch what he eats and/or work out so what makes one think that that person is disciplined enough to stick to the diet OR work off the carbs that he sneaks in when he craves them ie the snickers bar.

So anyway, Atkins = meh.

Booyah end rant. Go me for my first off topic rant.