Not discounting your xp here, or your knowledge. from the tech areas of this forum, I know you're a very technically inclined person. I'm replying to this because it's more likely a consumer will own something they know nothing about than the other way. However, I rarely hear anyone say they know everything about a product. That sounds like a young man's game, or just a fool.I honestly think i get more arguments on what i spent money on, or who i am going out with more so then politics.
I remember i almost got into a slight argument even about Tesla, when my cousin's date was talking like he knew everything about tesla, only to find out later the one parked in the driveway was mine.
Yeah, the entire family looked at him funny and i do not think my cousin and him lasted very long dating wise afterwards.
This for me as well, and it includes some close friends as well as family members. I just do not discuss politics with them.My Trumpie family are all college educated, upper middle class wage earners, so I just can’t understand how they were taken in to such an extent by someone so obviously weak and childish as Donald Trump. I just don’t get it. And I feel sorry for them.
You lost me at AOC and Warren being extreme liberals.My son and wife are extreme liberals ( like AOC and Warren liberal ). When I go visit him or vice versa Politics is a forbidden discussion. If he broaches the subject I leave or he leaves.
We have learned to just not discuss politics.
There's the answer. If you can talk politics with family and have it not get heated, awesome, go for it. Otherwise avoid it. You aren't going to change each other's minds when you're both in a confrontational state, and family relationships are more important than politics anyway.I just do not discuss politics with them.
You recall Nixon's reference to the "silent majority" and Trump's repetition of it? My observation is that they are neither a majority, nor are they particularly silent. When were they ever?I don't have any family members/relatives that I know of who have been conditioned into being Trump supporters. I have friends at work who are though. Good hard working folks who like to inject their FOX talking points at every opportunity that presents itself, of which I found perplexing because my friends at work who identify themselves as Democrats rarely talk about politics if at all.
It's like some of those Trump supporters at work have an urge to needlessly defend themselves in order to relieve themselves of some kind of pent up anger and frustration they feel for supporting Trump and the Repubs in Congress.
I never take the bait and get into another one way "discussion" about why Trump needs to be defended against his enemies. Done that, don't have a need for it.
There could have been a more substantive answer, but on a basic level it's right.Wow. That was a really intelligent post. /s
Oh the humanity! Why would we want to hold corporations accountable, close tax loop holes, be proactive in moving to a carbon neutral economy, provide universal healthcare, use science for reality based decision making, and provide affordable debt-free education!? God damn libruls having a plan for a better future.You lost me at AOC and Warren being extreme liberals.
You recall Nixon's reference to the "silent majority" and Trump's repetition of it? My observation is that they are neither a majority, nor are they particularly silent. When were they ever?
There could have been a more substantive answer, but on a basic level it's right.
In most fully developed countries, and many developing countries, the ideas that AOC, Warren and the like are asking for are recognized as reasonable. On a global scale, the US is oddly conservative -- moderate Democrats would be center-right in numerous parts of the world, and the AOC/Warren types would be the actual left.
Besides, it's amusing how they can be considered "extreme" because they believe in radical concepts like... say, healthcare as a basic necessity, or not cooking the planet with fossil fuels. AOC et. al. definitely have their naïveté and make mistakes, but they're eminently more rational than modern Republicans.