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How Do You Install Win-XP-SP3? I've done other OS's of course.

uberman

uberman

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I've got a brand new sealed disk I bought from Newegg for WinXP-SP3. I wish to boot directly to disk for a clean install. The machine I'm doing this to is a sturdy old timer. I was about to go, until I read on the package that I must have the:

"the OEM Preinstallation Kit.."

Say what? I've never heard of that. What's that mean? And since I've reinstalled XP during repair on machines; What's the registration process for new XPs?

Thanks for your suggestions in advance.

Uberman
 
Nothinman said:
You want to install a decade old OS that's just about end of life?
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Of course not. I have friends whose computers are the least important thing in their life and I'm doing a favor after considerable consultation.

I would never do this for myself.
 
uberman said:
Of course not. I have friends whose computers are the least important thing in their life and I'm doing a favor after considerable consultation.

I would never do this for myself.
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I wouldn't consider giving someone a security hole in a box a favor... Does the disc not boot at all? And if you bought the disc off of NewEgg why didn't you just by Win7 instead?
 
uberman, is your CD Windows XP with SP3 included, or just SP3 itself? From the message that you got, it sounds like the disc is just SP3, in which case you need an actual XP install CD as well.


Nothinman, whether you personally like XP or not, there are in fact many valid reasons to install XP rather than Vista or Windows7. I don't think we need to get into the debate again since that isn't the point of this thread, but it's a simple fact that Win7 is NOT always the best choice.
 
Nothinman, whether you personally like XP or not, there are in fact many valid reasons to install XP rather than Vista or Windows7. I don't think we need to get into the debate again since that isn't the point of this thread, but it's a simple fact that Win7 is NOT always the best choice.
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Would you also recommend Win98 or NT4 to someone today? That's pretty much where XP will be very, very soon. And the way I see it giving someone an XP machine is akin to giving them one of those OSes as well.
 
Fardringle said:
uberman, is your CD Windows XP with SP3 included, or just SP3 itself? From the message that you got, it sounds like the disc is just SP3, in which case you need an actual XP install CD as well.


Nothinman, whether you personally like XP or not, there are in fact many valid reasons to install XP rather than Vista or Windows7. I don't think we need to get into the debate again since that isn't the point of this thread, but it's a simple fact that Win7 is NOT always the best choice.
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Thank you for your insight. I'm installing a a brand new WIN XP Disk with SP3 included on the same disk. I'm doing it now and it seems to be going smoothly. I read the cardboard envelope that came with it. I just read to much.

Thanks again.
 
MS wants you to install OEM XP using their OEM Preinstallation Kit (OPK) because they want XP customized to show you as the builder and you as the warranty provider. MS doesn't support OEM versions of XP. The computer builder does.

As already noted, it's entirely possible to install OEM XP using the XP Install CD and not the OPK.
 
RebateMonger said:
MS wants you to install OEM XP using their OEM Preinstallation Kit (OPK) because they want XP customized to show you as the builder and you as the warranty provider. MS doesn't support OEM versions of XP. The computer builder does.

As already noted, it's entirely possible to install OEM XP using the XP Install CD and not the OPK.
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Thanks for the information. It installed like a charm. I was amazed, there were only three advertisements to delete, "Online Folder" with links to ISPs and another link to MSN. That's a first for me. It's a pain to delete the usual amount of advertising.
 
RavenSEAL said:
Why would you give someone windows XP when its about to die....?
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Just like many Millions have cars that are used to drive to work, the local malls, and have no interest in Hot Rods. They do not know what the size of the car's engine is, and whether the car is equipped with New tech, Old tech, or any tech.

So it is the use of computers.

As enthusiast we have the tendency to stew in our own juices.

Many millions use computers just for occasional internet and email. Every day I come across people that do not even know what version of Windows they are using (they are not even aware that there are versions.

But I am sure that each one here knows every thing about Opera, have a big collection of Pavarotti, Domingo, Carreras, and others, and knows every thing about Opera in and out. :whiste:


😎
 
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JackMDS said:
Just like many Millions have cars that are used to drive to work, the local malls, and have no interest in Hot Rods. They do not know what the size of the car's engine is, and whether the car is equipped with New tech, Old tech, or any tech.

So it is the use of computers.

As enthusiast we have the tendency to stew in our own juices.

Many millions use computers just for occasional internet and email. Every day I come across people that do not even know what version of Windows they are using (they are not even aware that there are versions.

But I am sure that each one here knows every thing about Opera, have a big collection of Pavarotti, Domingo, Carreras, and others, and knows every thing about Opera in and out. :whiste:


😎
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Except that those cars will keep working on the current roads while software will eventually stop working on XP. And an old car may still be secure against break-ins while XP will have lots of unpatched holes once MS stops security support and those people using it will likely still be putting personal, financial, etc info into it. Car analogies usually suck but this one is worse than normal IMO.
 
If someone didn't want modern Windows, I'd strongly encourage Linux. I'd encourage Linux anyway if they didn't have any special needs that Linux couldn't match. That virtually takes software out of the exploit equation, so you can focus on the human element for protecting their machine.
 
lxskllr said:
If someone didn't want modern Windows, I'd strongly encourage Linux. I'd encourage Linux anyway if they didn't have any special needs that Linux couldn't match. That virtually takes software out of the exploit equation, so you can focus on the human element for protecting their machine.
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Exactly, it should be fine unless they're a big PC gamer but if they were they wouldn't want to keep using XP anyway.
 
Nothinman said:
Except that those cars will keep working on the current roads while software will eventually stop working on XP. And an old car may still be secure against break-ins while XP will have lots of unpatched holes once MS stops security support and those people using it will likely still be putting personal, financial, etc info into it. Car analogies usually suck but this one is worse than normal IMO.
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I don't know if you know your 32 bits from 64 bits. I mean really, there are lots of people that use OSs which are friendlier to older software. My Jukebox and movie machine work great and continue to do so. Those two computers are running Win98SE. My guess is you prefer Millenium Edition? Everyone has their favorites.
 
uberman said:
I don't know if you know your 32 bits from 64 bits. I mean really, there are lots of people that use OSs which are friendlier to older software. My Jukebox and movie machine work great and continue to do so. Those two computers are running Win98SE. My guess is you prefer Millenium Edition? Everyone has their favorites.
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I was a Win98SE user back when it was appropriate, i.e. in 1998. Now I wouldn't recommend that to anyone. XP is now 8 years old and will be completely unsupported by MS soon so it falls into the exact same category of dead OSes.

Personally, I've been running a full 64-bit Linux Debian install for about 5 years now at home.
 
Nothinman said:
Would you also recommend Win98 or NT4 to someone today?
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Actually, yes I would, and just recently have as a matter of fact. Application is to use Win9x running on a Celeron 500 with 512meg to gather data from a VLF receiver and forward it on another much higher powered server (with an up-to-date OS) on the network for processing in search for pulsars. No need for an up-to-date OS on an older model machine that needs to have serial ports required for connect to the receiver.
 
networkman said:
Actually, yes I would, and just recently have as a matter of fact. Application is to use Win9x running on a Celeron 500 with 512meg to gather data from a VLF receiver and forward it on another much higher powered server (with an up-to-date OS) on the network for processing in search for pulsars. No need for an up-to-date OS on an older model machine that needs to have serial ports required for connect to the receiver.
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I'm really glad that I don't work for or with you...
 
Nothinman said:
I'm really glad that I don't work for or with you...
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I don't honestly see why. Perhaps I should've made mention of the fact that the Win98 boxes aren't going outside of the local network, ie no access to the internet.

Still, I and my IT Department at my workplace manage an entire Wide Area Network of (19) locations running Windows Server 2003, Windows XP Pro, and Windows XP Embedded (thin-clients) plus VMware. That's over 700 stations and they're all working fine. Being a library system, we're not exactly privy to the latest and greatest and budget for new? Hah!
 
networkman said:
I don't honestly see why. Perhaps I should've made mention of the fact that the Win98 boxes aren't going outside of the local network, ie no access to the internet.

Still, I and my IT Department at my workplace manage an entire Wide Area Network of (19) locations running Windows Server 2003, Windows XP Pro, and Windows XP Embedded (thin-clients) plus VMware. That's over 700 stations and they're all working fine. Being a library system, we're not exactly privy to the latest and greatest and budget for new? Hah!
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Latest and greatest? XP is 8 years old now, Vista would be better.
 
networkman said:
No point in even looking at Vista, as any new hardware we do get a budget for is likely to have Windows 7 anyway, nevermind that the footprint for Vista is greater than that of Windows 7.
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I wouldn't recommend Vista over Win7, but I would over XP. It's not like everyone hasn't had years to prepare for this already...
 
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