how do you install hard drives over 137GB?

[amgkid]

i have a 160gb maxtor that i'm trying to install. when i use the onboard ide ports, it only recognizes it as 137 since it's not ATA133, i think. if i use the promise onboard ide ports, my windows xp install doesn't recognize it. i tried loading the promise drivers during the install but it still doesn't see the drives. this should be a very common install but i'm stumped. any ideas? i'm just hinking of installing it on 137GB right now and then move it to my ATA133 ports later and use partition magic to get the rest of the space back. i'm sure there is any easier way. thanks for any help

 

[eklass]

you realize that formatting a drive eats away at usable space, right?

that loss sounds extreme, but my 60GB drive only reports being 57.2GB in winxp

 

[crip11]

Try updating your BIOS older versions only support 137 gig max

 

[Vegito]

depending on ur mobo.. > 137 is really ata/133 unless u use the card or upgrade the bios and see if it'll remove the limitation.

WD uses ata/100 to go over >120 gb, it doesn't need ata/133. My 175gb shows up as 167.68gb using ata/100

u sure u got the right promise driver ? whats the chipset, some older chipset does not have wxp driver = what i had before

 

[amgkid]

i have a fairly new motherboard, gigabyte 8IRXP with onboard RAID. running a p4 2.4 and a maxtor diamondplus 9 160GB with 8mb cache. i'm using the newest bios. i think the ata133 only applies to ide port 3 and 4 though, which is not recognized in winxp installation or the maxtor install disk.

 

[Pariah]

Originally posted by: amgkid
i have a fairly new motherboard, gigabyte 8IRXP with onboard RAID. running a p4 2.4 and a maxtor diamondplus 9 160GB with 8mb cache. i'm using the newest bios. i think the ata133 only applies to ide port 3 and 4 though, which is not recognized in winxp installation or the maxtor install disk.

You need to put the drivers for the ATA133 controller on a floppy disc and hit f6 during installation when it tells you to in order to get it recognized during installation. You need service pack 1 for proper Large ATA drive support as well.

 

[AgaBoogaBoo]

Q. How do you install hard drives over 137GB?
A. You don't.

 

[Trashman]

make sure those other ide ports are not disabled in BIOS as well....and when you say "it only recognizes it as 137 " is it the board that only sees that or WinXP?....if only in windows, like Pariah stated ya need SP1.

 

[Zugzwang152]

Originally posted by: eklass
you realize that formatting a drive eats away at usable space, right?

that loss sounds extreme, but my 60GB drive only reports being 57.2GB in winxp

thats because drive manufacturers use 1GB=1000MB and OS'S generally report the accurate 1GB=1024MB. I just did a little math and windows would be reporting the size as 156.25GB had it installed correctly.

 

[eklass]

Originally posted by: AgaBooga
Q. How do you install hard drives over 137GB? A. You don't.

i guess it's a good think i was planning on getting a 120GB drive as my next hdd now to come up with some cash

 

[amgkid]

finally got it resolved. i just partitioned it to 128GB and after i installed SP1, i used partition magic to extend the partition to 152GB total. thanks guys for your help

 

[emjem]

Originally posted by: amgkid
finally got it resolved. i just partitioned it to 128GB and after i installed SP1, i used partition magic to extend the partition to 152GB total. thanks guys for your help

Ahahahahah, very clever !!!!!

 

[Sid59]

Originally posted by: amgkid
finally got it resolved. i just partitioned it to 128GB and after i installed SP1, i used partition magic to extend the partition to 152GB total. thanks guys for your help

SP1 fot XP shoulda fixed it. You parititoned the drive and then installed SP1, then extended the parition? Useless step but it worked =D

 

[Jeff7181]

Originally posted by: eklass
you realize that formatting a drive eats away at usable space, right?

that loss sounds extreme, but my 60GB drive only reports being 57.2GB in winxp

LOL... that's not why it reports less space than is actually sold... it all has to do with math and how they advertise the drives

 

[amgkid]

Originally posted by: Sid59

Originally posted by: amgkid
finally got it resolved. i just partitioned it to 128GB and after i installed SP1, i used partition magic to extend the partition to 152GB total. thanks guys for your help

SP1 fot XP shoulda fixed it. You parititoned the drive and then installed SP1, then extended the parition? Useless step but it worked =D

this was my primary drive so i didn't have sp1 in the first place since i installed from scratch with my winxp non sp1 disk. was there an easier way?

 

[XBoxLPU]

so you have one big 160gb partition ?

I would have made a 5-10gb partition for XP. After XP was installed to the smaller partition. installed XP SP1. The rest of your space should have shown up. You could have also installed XP without partitioning it, and than after the installation installed SP 1

 

[bigshooter]

You don't need ATA-133 to support >137GB HD's. That is just Maxtor's implementation. You need 48bit LBA, which can sometimes be accomplished through a bios update. That's what worked on my Epox 8KHA+. You could also add support for your promise card by using drivers from a floppy like someone already said. Then you create the biggest partition that winxp will allow, about 137GB. After you install to that, install SP1, then you can use winxp to extend the partition. If you have a winxp cd with sp1 slipstreamed into it, you may be able to create a bigger partition right off the bat, I haven't tried it yet, but am going to see if it works later.

 

[AtomicAlien]

Originally posted by: bigshooter
You don't need ATA-133 to support >137GB HD's. That is just Maxtor's implementation. You need 48bit LBA, which can sometimes be accomplished through a bios update. That's what worked on my Epox 8KHA+. You could also add support for your promise card by using drivers from a floppy like someone already said. Then you create the biggest partition that winxp will allow, about 137GB. After you install to that, install SP1, then you can use winxp to extend the partition. If you have a winxp cd with sp1 slipstreamed into it, you may be able to create a bigger partition right off the bat, I haven't tried it yet, but am going to see if it works later.

I agree the better addressing would be helpful on a larger HDD. And here is how to do it and avoid all the other hooey.

 

[rbV5]

If you have a winxp cd with sp1 slipstreamed into it, you may be able to create a bigger partition right off the bat, I haven't tried it yet, but am going to see if it works later.

I used my XP SP1 CD to create a 200GB partition on my WD drive so it should work.

 

[warmonger]

Originally posted by: Jeff7181

Originally posted by: eklass
you realize that formatting a drive eats away at usable space, right?

that loss sounds extreme, but my 60GB drive only reports being 57.2GB in winxp

LOL... that's not why it reports less space than is actually sold... it all has to do with math and how they advertise the drives

Actually, you're both right. The 1000 vs 1024 makes some of the difference, but you can't possibly think that formatting the drive doesn't take up space. On larger drives, the MFT takes up a significant amount of space.

 

[IcePhoenix]

Originally posted by: amgkid
finally got it resolved. i just partitioned it to 128GB and after i installed SP1, i used partition magic to extend the partition to 152GB total. thanks guys for your help

Whoa, watch yourself there. I did something similar to that, and after you fill the drive past 128 gigs, the whole thing will corrupt itself. Install SP1, and reformat.

Edit: Duh, you already installed SP1

 

[zCypher]

I have two different 80GB drives and they both show up as 74.5GB total size each... they were partitioned and formatted to fat32 using an image, and converted to NTFS during Win2K/XP (got legal educational copies of both) setup... I'm not sure if doing it this way loses more space, but I don't really care. 160GB or 150GB, big deal

 

[sak]

Originally posted by: AgaBooga
Q. How do you install hard drives over 137GB?
A. You don't.

Idiot

 

[henmaster]

You need to install Intel Application Accelerator.

 

[henmaster]

Oh yeah here is a useful link
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