How do you disable the hidden internet server with your pc

[boyz]

Hello, i was scanning my shield and i found that the internal server within my pc was enable, without my knowledge. How could i disable it within windows 2000. Thanks


Attempting connection to your computer. . .
Shields UP! is now attempting to contact the Hidden Internet Server within your PC. It is likely that no one has told you that your own personal computer may now be functioning as an Internet Server with neither your knowledge nor your permission. And that it may be serving up all or many of your personal files for reading, writing, modification and even deletion by anyone, anywhere, on the Internet!

 

[HJB417]

download or buy a hardware/software firewall

 

[Chooco]

the problem is that the computer is running a server, instead of counter-acting the problem with a firewall, is there a way to actually stop the problem?

 

[Gaunt]

By the looks of that message from ShieldsUp, it's informing you that it's trying to connect to your machine. It doesn't seem to be saying that your machine IS a server...

Isn't there a detailed list of the finding of ShieldsUp that tells you what ports and services are running, and gives suggested on how to remove them? It's been a while since I've used ShieldsUp, but that's what I remember.

If you didn't configure Win2k specifically to be a server, you won't have FTP or WWW servers running, which are covered by IIS, and if you look for the IIS component, you can disable these servers if you did manage to turn them on.

Apart from those servers, win2k has alot of open ports in general that it uses for god knows what. As far as I can tell, it's not possible to close these ports and leave win2k in a working state (ie, I've got no idea how to do it, and what depends on them). The best advice I can give you is to find a firewall, either hardware or software, and block off all unneeded ports. ZoneAlarm, or Tiny Software's Personal Firewall should do the trick. Tiny used to be free, and I found it better than ZoneAlarm, but it doesn't seem to be free anymore.

 

[HJB417]

well, if you have a windows machine directly connected to the internet
e.x.: your computer -> modem
it's recommended that you disable File & Printer sharing and not use "Client for M$ Networks". I don't know what win2k's default setup is like but it's all about the services but these are the ones that you should secure, if you decide to use them
IIS - web server
telnet server
SMTP service

 

[Miramonti]

If you go to the c: and right click properties, and then cleanup disk, I think there is an option to remove windows components you don't use. IIS is one of those, and can be unchecked if you're not using it.

 

[Bglad]

Unbind tcp/ip from all your internal networking components.

 

[HJB417]

Originally posted by: Bglad
Unbind tcp/ip from all your internal networking components.

lol

 

[Bglad]

You know what? Your post is of absolutely no help to him as it is obviously a noob question. It is completely vague and gives no complete explanation or instructions. Then you come back, quote me and just add "lol".

It is posters like you that ruin this board by making lots of people read too much rubbish to get to posters that have something valuable to say. If you are going to quote and make fun of people, you better be prepared to give some reason and explanation. Otherwise, as in this case, you look the fool.

So remember... It is better to be silent and thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

 

[TheWart]

Bglad is right:

port 139 is what Steve Gibson's site says is the "hidden internet server" which i think is just NETBIOS. right click Network Neighborhood->properties->right click the connection you use for getting online (im on dsl so i right click LAN)->untick Client for MS Network, then untick file and printer sharing

if that does not do it, then download kerio personal firewall (formerly tiny personal firewall) and we can help you configure that).



HJB417 Bglad called your punkishness.

 

[HJB417]

how the hell is he supposed to access the internet if he unbinds tcp/ip, ass
might as well tell him, to go surf at the public library

and I told him about firewalls and file and printer sharing above. So I did try to help him.

 

[KK]

Originally posted by: HJB417
how the hell is he supposed to access the internet if he unbinds tcp/ip, ass
might as well tell him, to go surf at the public library

and I told him about firewalls and file and printer sharing above. So I did try to help him.

I thought he was joking when he said to unbind tcp/ip. If he wasn't, that's even funnier.

KK

 

[Bglad]

Your computer is not actually running a server per se. It is however listening and accepting data packets from the internet as a server would. Since you are not really running a server, you don't need it to listen for unrequested incoming packets. That is what you are trying to stop.


As for HJB and KK

Unbind tcp/ip from Ms networks and file sharing leaving it bound only to whatever interface is connected to the internet. Unbinding tcp/ip from them leaves services useable over a local network using NetBui but unuseable over tcp/ip (i.e. the internet).

Simple explanation and protocol binding maps for those who speak of which they do not know
This explains setup for Win98. NT/2K/XP work the same way, only menus used for setup are different.

It is rediculous that I have to explain such simple networking theories to defend myself against mocking from people who so obviously don't understand.

You guys should really do some reading and have a full understanding of the way internal networking connections work before you mock people. You just make yourselves look foolish. Now would you like me to explain how babies are made or do you already know about the stork?

 

[Descartes]

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[HJB417]

that's very cute
but you missed the fact that he's using windows 2000.
unbinding tcp/ip = no internet access.
now please quit trying to be a smart ass man, the starter of the thread hasn't even replied yet.

 

[Bglad]

unbinding tcp/ip = no internet access.

This is simply not true. You obviously don't understand the relationship between the services, the adapters and the protocols.

Posting incorrect information phrased in such a way that it sounds like you know what you are talking about does not make you look smart.

but you missed the fact that he's using windows 2000.

I didn't miss anything. You obviously didn't take any more time to read my post than you did posting these pitiful replies.

now please quit trying to be a smart ass man

Thats the best you can do is sink lower into name calling? Grow up and admit you were rude and you don't know everything.

 

[KK]

I don't claim to know everything , in fact there is alot more to know. I just don't remember it being like that in 2000, and I don't believe its run that way in XP. I remember that binding stuff on windows 95 and 98. Could someone fill me in? And tell me how this can be done.

Bglad, when you said "This explains setup for Win98. NT/2K/XP work the same way, only menus used for setup are different."
Can you tell me how you get to the menus to do this in XP? I'll go out on a limb and say it can't be done in atleast XP. Prove me wrong and knock me off the limb. There's no need for name calling, just some proof on Windows 2000.

KK

 

[KK]

Well, after looking XP has the bindings. It's just not as obvisious as they were in the early makes of windows. You gotta go to network connections, and at the top go to the advanced menu and down to the advanced settings. Who says these forums are a waste of time.

KK

 

[Bglad]

Yes, you found it. Not really harder to find, just in a different place. Actually easier once you are in there because it lists protocols in a tree under the adapter/services they can be bound to.

I do highly recommend looking at the protocol graphics on the link above. It explains graphically how you can use tcp/ip for the internet and disconnect it from your internal services/lan but still keep using those services using other protocols.

For the original poster, beware, this does not make you completely safe... far from it. It does however shut down the broadcast of your Netbios info.