How do you deliver 60A to a processor?

sgtroyer

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I read recently that Prescott dissipates something like 90-100W, and its voltage supply is 1.4V. So that's upwards of 60A of power being delivered to the processor. That's a heck of a lot of power. A normal household circuit is designed for 15A and uses 14 gauge wire. So that's like four big wires for VDD and four more for GND. Just how does it get there? How wide do those traces on the mainboard need to be to carry that current (I'm thinking a few feet wide). How many pins on the package are dedicated to power (I'm thinking hundreds if not thousands). A 400W power supply can only supply 30A on the 3.3V line, so there must be some monster of a magical power converter on the mainboard to get that 60A.

Anyone want to weigh in on how this is done?
 

Peter

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The voltage is low, and there are quite a lot of power pins on a CPU package. And today's boards typically run the CPU voltage regulation off the 12V rail, most even with a separate 12V power cable used exclusively for this.
 

Lynx516

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Pthe P4 has 87 VCC pins and I cannot be bothered to count how many VSS pins. But delivering 60A is a large problem for mobo manufacturers. People will literaly get MOSFETs melting the solder holding them down.
 

CTho9305

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Originally posted by: sgtroyer
I read recently that Prescott dissipates something like 90-100W, and its voltage supply is 1.4V. So that's upwards of 60A of power being delivered to the processor. That's a heck of a lot of power. A normal household circuit is designed for 15A and uses 14 gauge wire. So that's like four big wires for VDD and four more for GND.

The voltage regulator is inches from the processor. Your house's incoming line is dozens (if not hundreds) of feet long, so a higher resistance is more tolerable in the motherboard.
 

Jeff7

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You mentioned the wattage rating, but focused on the amps rating completely.
90-100W. Like a light bulb - and that's just a tiny filiment. Granted, it does glow white-hot, but it's still very tiny. As mentioned, there are many many routes for power to pass through.
Now, household current - 120V @ 15Amps is the rated max for most outlets. 1800 watts. Much more power.
 

Mark R

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The connections to the CPU are usually by means of 'power planes' rather than simple traces on the motherboard PCB. Essentially, there are 2 copper layers, one for ground and one for power, which are essentially solid copper expect for insulating space around the CPU pins they don't connect to. In fact there are power planes that extend thoughout the whole motherboard routing Ground, 3.3 V and 5V, CPU and memory core voltages to the appropriate parts - although it is possible to have the various power rails divided into large blocks over a single layer).

The power planes (which are actually internal to the motherboard, and therefore not visible from the outside) are also often considerably thicker than the external layers - potentially as thick as 0.35 mm each. The external layers that carry signals need fine wires for space, and the copper needs to be thinner in order to make manufacturing practical.

There are also additional tricks to ensure that the power is stable. Whenever power flows through a wire it causes a voltage drop - try this at home, switch on a heavy load and you'll see the lights dim as voltage is lost in the wires carrying power to your house. There may well be a significant drop in the planes carrying power from the regulator to the chip - and potentially a significant amount lost in the socket and CPU pins. To get around this, there are 2 pins on modern CPUs which are connected directly to the power supply on the die - these pins allow the actual voltage reaching the silicon. The voltage regulator circuit measures this and regulates this to keep it properly regulated. Note that this voltage is not always measured by 'health monitoring' chips, so they will give an inaccurate value for CPU core voltage.
 

RadBrad

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Anyone want to weigh in on how this is done?
Why yes, I believe it is done with electricity.
There are actually 85vcc pins and 180vss pins and the maximum peak delivered amperage required by Intel is 91A, and the Intel manual on the subject is 5,327 pages long and my eyes hurt.
 

sgtroyer

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Okay, I didn't really think about full power planes, but that makes sense. I was doing some back of the envelope calculations with 1oz (34u) copper and I needed a trace at least a foot wide. With a thicker dedicated power plane, that would ease the requirements a little, and I suppose the regulator is as close to the processor as possible.

I was expected more power pins, though. Does anybody know, does each pin connect to only one bump on the silicon, because 700mA per bump seems really high. Maybe Intel has some monster power bumps.
 

RadBrad

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I,m not up to snuff on the "bump" thing but I would rework my thinking on the 1 oz (34u) copper as a part of the equasion. My project today will be to figure out how to lubricate an electron.