how do you convince stubborn idiots that credit cards are not bad?

MrDudeMan

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edit 2: i am shocked at the amount of stupidity that has been spewed in this thread, so lets clear a few things up.

1) credit cards are free. using one does not make whatever you bought more expensive.
2) getting a rewards card is amazing. i get free gas every month simply because i buy it with a credit card.
3) debit cards do NOT count as credit.
4) yes, you can establish credit without owning a credit card, but why? you can get one for free, you dont have to put as big of a downpayment on a car (just an example) and you still qualify for the same interest rate.
5) if you pay off the previous months balance, you wont pay a penny in interest as long as you own the card, and this can be setup to happen automatically!
6) emergencies - what if you need 2 grand to fix your car, but you dont get paid until next friday? gonna borrow it for 300-400%? or gonna ask mommy and daddy? or, here is a super idea...fix it and put it on the credit card so you can pay it off at your next statement when you have the money in your account! plus, if you have a rewards card, you just got a lot of points/miles/whatever for money you HAD to spend!
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i was out to eat with a girl from class yesterday and i got out my credit card to pay. she told me i need to cut that up and get rid of the account.

needless to say, i laughed my head off. i couldnt believe it. i explained to her the several advantages of having a credit card, but she just didnt believe me. i was shocked at this point. she was actually denying facts, and it was obvious that she was overheating from trying to implement logic into her thought process (as from another thread, girls + logic = ???).

some background on me...

took a year off to work at an engineering firm in dallas after high school, made decent money and saved every penny i could. tried to get a credit card a time or two, got denied. tried one last time, thought i got denied (i was only applying for $500 limit), but then the guy at my branch said "oh wait! you have been pre-approved for $5500 and a rewards card of your choice". FYI - i took it, got the cash back card, and i only spend what i would normally have spent on my debit card. i pay it off in full every month and havent paid a penny in interest over the last year. it seems obvious to me that everyone should do it that way if possible, but i realize many people out there have no self control and dont understand the whole idea...

after going through all of that with her, she still was so adamantly opposed to getting a credit card. granted, i really dont care if she is this stupid, but for the sake of arguement i wanted to try to explain to her why it can be a good thing.

so what can you say to someone who is completely ignorant to credit cards in less than 8-9 sentences (while you still have their attention) that can help them realize it actually can be a good thing?

cliffs:
1. semi-intelligent girl sucks at life
2. doesnt understand facts vs. opinions
3. thinks credit cards are from satan himself
4. she is semi-hot (not in story, and no pics, sorry)
5. the end

edit: you idiots that are anti-CC and have no clue about them need not respond. anyone with half a brain realizes good credit history can never, ever hurt you. oh, and i know this posts sounds like i was mean to her, but i was actually very nice and calm about the whole thing. i was genuinely trying to help her understand how it could benefit her to have one.
 

MrDudeMan

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Originally posted by: whitecloak
They are bad, period!

come on...seriously. i even put a clause in my OP to protect myself from the "some people have no will-power" arguement. so that wont work this time!
 

nakedfrog

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I would guess she already had one and was incapable of controlling herself so now she's an anti-CC zealot. Can't reason with zealots.
 

njmodi

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Any idiot should not have a credit card, so no need to convince.
 

CRXican

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Tell her she won't be able to get financing on a car or a house due to lack of credit history.

She is nothing without credit, eveyone needs it.
 

MikeMike

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so what was her point of view on them, in terms of what she has said? why dont you give us that, since you conviniently left that out, and well, seem to be asking for our advice since you got owned like the lil bitch you are...

:D

MIKE
 

Sqube

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If you use a debit card as a credit card, does it count in your credit history?

Or do you have to use an actual credit card for that?
 

MrDudeMan

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Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1
so what was her point of view on them, in terms of what she has said? why dont you give us that, since you conviniently left that out, and well, seem to be asking for our advice since you got owned like the lil bitch you are...

:D

MIKE

are you just flat out retarded? what more do i need to tell you? she thinks they are evil and no one should have one because she doesnt understand it. i didnt get owned, not even a little bit. she got emotional because i was giving her factual answers whenever she asked a question and couldnt get me into a corner.

aside from the fact that you are completely wrong, what gives with the attitude? are you one of those idiots that cant control their spending?
 

njmodi

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Originally posted by: Sqube
If you use a debit card as a credit card, does it count in your credit history?

Or do you have to use an actual credit card for that?


Good question.
 

MrDudeMan

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Originally posted by: Sqube
If you use a debit card as a credit card, does it count in your credit history?

Or do you have to use an actual credit card for that?

you need a credit card. a debit card is a debit card.
 

CRXican

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Originally posted by: Sqube
If you use a debit card as a credit card, does it count in your credit history?

Or do you have to use an actual credit card for that?

doesn't count

you need an actual CC
 

nakedfrog

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Originally posted by: Sqube
If you use a debit card as a credit card, does it count in your credit history?

Or do you have to use an actual credit card for that?

I'm fairly certain it has to be an actual credit card.
 

MrDudeMan

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Originally posted by: wonho84
credit card is only bad if you cannot handle it....

credit card comes with GREAT RESPONSIBILITIES!

agreed. she is responsible enough i guess to have one, but that wasnt what the problem was. she thought they were actually bad, like it will hurt you in some way financially just to own one. i dont understand why people get to thinking like this!
 

MrDudeMan

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Originally posted by: FoBoT
Originally posted by: Bigsm00th
i pay it off in full every month and havent paid a penny in interest over the last year.

/thread

you would think that point alone should drive the arguement home, but it doesnt.
 

yllus

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Well if she's that stupid it's probably in her personal best interest to avoid a dreaded credit card.

For the rest of us, who use a credit card for convenience, rewards points and to build our credit history... Well, there are only upsides if you have brains in your head. That said, I declined getting a Best Buy card about twenty times while I worked there because even if it was no-fee and all that, I'm never going to agree to using a card with 28.8% interest.
 

gigapet

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paying interest on depreciating assets is a nono. Any finance person can tell you that too.

So how much is your lunch worth today?
 

BooGiMaN

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so she has her opinion and you have yours whats the big deal?

why does it make her an idiot because she her iews differ from hers?

more importantly obviously now your chances of getting any poon from her are shot..move on.....
 

MrDudeMan

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Originally posted by: yllus
Well if she's that stupid it's probably in her personal best interest to avoid a dreaded credit card.

For the rest of us, who use a credit card for convenience, rewards points and to build our credit history... Well, there are only upsides if you have brains in your head. That said, I declined getting a Best Buy card about twenty times while I worked there because even if it was no-fee and all that, I'm never going to agree to using a card with 28.8% interest.

wow 28.8% is horrible. gosh ive never heard of a card having that high of an interest rate!