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Originally posted by: Fox5
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: Fox5
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: Googer
Originally posted by: Excelsior
For the xbox: http://www.x2vga.com/

Even better, with this:
http://www.viewsonic.com/products/accessories/tvvideoprocessors/nextvisionn6/

uh..but that is more than 3x the cost, and if you just have an xbox, doesn't really help much.

But it works for everything, including HDTV content, whereas the X2VGA is likely to only work with 480p in most monitors, so old and new content can be played on your monitor, and not just your xbox.

Are you on drugs?

"he X2VGA+ High Definition VGA Pack by Neoya unleashes the full video performance of the Xbox. With the X2VGA+ and a standard VGA monitor, users can play their favorite Xbox games at 480p, 720p, or 1080i resolutions"

No, I'm not, it's because the X2VGA+ directly converts from component to VGA, many monitors(especially LCDs) do not have native support for 1280x720 and 1920x1080, and thus won't display anything. Most xbox games are only 640x480, but xbox 360 will be 1280x720 standard, and likely won't use the same cables as xbox anyhow, so you'd have to buy a new vga adapter for x360.

😕

But the LCDs can still display 480p. You are wrong, it will work, it will just send out the 480p signal as opposed to 720p or 1080i. Have you actually thought of doing any research first?


 
Originally posted by: Googer
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: Googer
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: Googer
Originally posted by: Excelsior
For the xbox: http://www.x2vga.com/

Even better, with this:
http://www.viewsonic.com/products/accessories/tvvideoprocessors/nextvisionn6/

uh..but that is more than 3x the cost, and if you just have an xbox, doesn't really help much.

Please explain.


You can get a less capable N5 and watch TV on yout PC Monitor. Viewsonic's webpage says (for the N6):
You can view your own video content in multiple resolutions up to 1280x1024.
meaning any resolution below 1280x1024 can be displayed. Lower Resolutions are de-interlaced and upconverted to 1280x1024.

Notice that I did not recomend the HD12 with the HDTV tuner installed. It would do the same as the N6 but do it a little bit better.

I stand by my claim...if someone wants to simply hook their xbox up to their computer monitor, nothing more than the X2VGA+ is needed. Agree?

If they would like to do more, sure, I bet the Nextvision N6 is a wonderful piece of hardware.

the N6 or HD12 is much more flexible and does the same thing as the X2VGA and is not application specific. The Nextivision will still be in use when XBOX2 comes out and you will not need a new adapter. And Imagine all of the other possibilities you could do with an N6 or HD12.

The X2VGA certainly is better than the TV Tuner Idea someone mentioned earlier.

Yes, you are correct, I won't deny that. Still, none of your statements refute the fact that the n6 is more expensive. What if someone only has an xbox, and they weren't interested in the xbox360 (I know, not likely, but still). Why would they need to spend more on hardware that they wouldnt fully utilize when they could get the x2vga and it would work just fine?
 
Originally posted by: Googer
Originally posted by: Fox5
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: Fox5
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: Googer
Originally posted by: Excelsior
For the xbox: http://www.x2vga.com/

Even better, with this:
http://www.viewsonic.com/products/accessories/tvvideoprocessors/nextvisionn6/

uh..but that is more than 3x the cost, and if you just have an xbox, doesn't really help much.

But it works for everything, including HDTV content, whereas the X2VGA is likely to only work with 480p in most monitors, so old and new content can be played on your monitor, and not just your xbox.

Are you on drugs?

"he X2VGA+ High Definition VGA Pack by Neoya unleashes the full video performance of the Xbox. With the X2VGA+ and a standard VGA monitor, users can play their favorite Xbox games at 480p, 720p, or 1080i resolutions"

No, I'm not, it's because the X2VGA+ directly converts from component to VGA, many monitors(especially LCDs) do not have native support for 1280x720 and 1920x1080, and thus won't display anything. Most xbox games are only 640x480, but xbox 360 will be 1280x720 standard, and likely won't use the same cables as xbox anyhow, so you'd have to buy a new vga adapter for x360.

Yes!

That is what makes the N6 the better buy: You can use it for so much more than playing XBOX. It can be used for PS1, NES, PS2, VCR's, GameCube, SNES, Atari 2600, Comodore64, DVD, TiVO, Hi8, TV Viewing, Camcorders, CCTV, ETC. The list of things you can do with the N6 (or even better HD12) can go on forever, but you cannot say that about the X2VGA because it is only capable of doing one thing.

"Hey Bob, like my new BMW?" --- "Yeah Joe, it is reallllly nice. How much did you spend on it?" ---- "Oh, I think twice what you spent on your Accord."

😛
 
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: Googer
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: Googer
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: Googer
Originally posted by: Excelsior
For the xbox: http://www.x2vga.com/

Even better, with this:
http://www.viewsonic.com/products/accessories/tvvideoprocessors/nextvisionn6/

uh..but that is more than 3x the cost, and if you just have an xbox, doesn't really help much.

Please explain.


You can get a less capable N5 and watch TV on yout PC Monitor. Viewsonic's webpage says (for the N6):
You can view your own video content in multiple resolutions up to 1280x1024.
meaning any resolution below 1280x1024 can be displayed. Lower Resolutions are de-interlaced and upconverted to 1280x1024.

Notice that I did not recomend the HD12 with the HDTV tuner installed. It would do the same as the N6 but do it a little bit better.

I stand by my claim...if someone wants to simply hook their xbox up to their computer monitor, nothing more than the X2VGA+ is needed. Agree?

If they would like to do more, sure, I bet the Nextvision N6 is a wonderful piece of hardware.

the N6 or HD12 is much more flexible and does the same thing as the X2VGA and is not application specific. The Nextivision will still be in use when XBOX2 comes out and you will not need a new adapter. And Imagine all of the other possibilities you could do with an N6 or HD12.

The X2VGA certainly is better than the TV Tuner Idea someone mentioned earlier.

Yes, you are correct, I won't deny that. Still, none of your statements refute the fact that the n6 is more expensive. What if someone only has an xbox, and they weren't interested in the xbox360 (I know, not likely, but still). Why would they need to spend more on hardware that they wouldnt fully utilize when they could get the x2vga and it would work just fine?

Because he has no televison in the room where he wants the XBOX, the N6 (HD12) would alow him to Watch TV and will prevent him from having to buy another adaper for what ever else he may like to connect to his monitor.



Also some one said most monitors cannot display 720p. I say they must be joking. ALMOST Every CRT monitor I have used or owend since 1995-1996 has been able to display a maximum resolution of 1600x1200. More expensive ($500 and UP) Graphics and Professional level Monitors could display higher.
 
If you are talking about PS2, do NOT buy a VGA Box, those things are all crap, I've tried them. For PS2 stick with a good CAPTURE CARD or possibly the NextVision 6, which would have to have more quality than the other VGA Boxes...

For XBOX, a VGA Box might be fine... the difference between the Playstation 2 and XBOX are most games for the PS2 are interlaced (480i), and most for XBOX are progressive (480p), and the deinterlacers on those VGA Boxes are horrible, among color bleeding issues.

I recommend a Leadtek TV2000XP/EXPERT TV/FM Tuner Card for use with DScaler. It's cheap and it works. The VGA Boxes from Hong Kong and such are just as expensive, and they have many issues.
 
Originally posted by: islandtechengineers
RCA = if your monitor has the capability or get a TV turner card for your pc!

I disagree with any Idea of using a PC TV tuner as a way of connecitng an XBOX to the Monitor. If some one else in the home wants to use the internet for something then he has to quit his game. Also it is a waste of Computational and electrical reasorses. Also you are converting a digital signal to analogue back to digital then analogue again. Bad IDEA. The N6 Has analogue outputs so there is no re-conversion that I am aware of (If a CRT is used). It (Tuner Card) is not the most effective means. He would be better off getting the XVGA thing instead.
 
Originally posted by: Googer
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: Googer
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: Googer
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: Googer
Originally posted by: Excelsior
For the xbox: http://www.x2vga.com/

Even better, with this:
http://www.viewsonic.com/products/accessories/tvvideoprocessors/nextvisionn6/

uh..but that is more than 3x the cost, and if you just have an xbox, doesn't really help much.

Please explain.


You can get a less capable N5 and watch TV on yout PC Monitor. Viewsonic's webpage says (for the N6):
You can view your own video content in multiple resolutions up to 1280x1024.
meaning any resolution below 1280x1024 can be displayed. Lower Resolutions are de-interlaced and upconverted to 1280x1024.

Notice that I did not recomend the HD12 with the HDTV tuner installed. It would do the same as the N6 but do it a little bit better.

I stand by my claim...if someone wants to simply hook their xbox up to their computer monitor, nothing more than the X2VGA+ is needed. Agree?

If they would like to do more, sure, I bet the Nextvision N6 is a wonderful piece of hardware.

the N6 or HD12 is much more flexible and does the same thing as the X2VGA and is not application specific. The Nextivision will still be in use when XBOX2 comes out and you will not need a new adapter. And Imagine all of the other possibilities you could do with an N6 or HD12.

The X2VGA certainly is better than the TV Tuner Idea someone mentioned earlier.

Yes, you are correct, I won't deny that. Still, none of your statements refute the fact that the n6 is more expensive. What if someone only has an xbox, and they weren't interested in the xbox360 (I know, not likely, but still). Why would they need to spend more on hardware that they wouldnt fully utilize when they could get the x2vga and it would work just fine?

Because he has no televison in the room where he wants the XBOX, the N6 (HD12) would alow him to Watch TV and will prevent him from having to buy another adaper for what ever else he may like to connect to his monitor.



Also some one said most monitors cannot display 720p. I say they must be joking. ALMOST Every CRT monitor I have used or owend since 1995-1996 has been able to display a maximum resolution of 1600x1200. More expensive ($500 and UP) Graphics and Professional level Monitors could display higher.

Your reading comprehension sucks. I wasn't talking about the guy this thread, I was talking about a theoretical person/situation. Even then, sure he doesn't have a TV in his room, but where did he say he wanted to watch TV?

 
If you only need to display 480p and higher, the VD-Z3 is one of the best adapters you can buy (about $70). It takes ANY component video source and displays it on a monitor. I believe the X2VGA only works with the X-Box. However, if you need to connect non-HDTV sources, you might be better off with a video card that has video in, or maybe the HD12.

 
Hey as a college student traveling half way across the world frequently throughout the past 3 years; it was a good idea for me to spend $20 bucks on a cheap card on ebay and drop it into my PC! I was able to watch multiple channels while working on a site, coding or studying crap. On top of that, I?m able to plug in almost any media device into my pc (think almost any camera, camcorder, hell with my audigy combined, any car or home receiver. I?ve had a dish ?. You got the point? on top of that, with large hard drives, I practically have my own audio / video recording / editing studio to fit my needs).

Now, that I?ve decided to settle back in Mass for MIT, I don?t need it at all and can relate to your statement ?If some one else in the home wants to use the internet for something then he has to quit his game.? In regards to ?Also it is a waste of Computational and electrical reasorses. Also you are converting a digital signal to analogue back to digital then analogue again. Bad IDEA.? I agree, but for $20 bucks shipped, I practically don?t give a $h|T of wasting resources and when it came to editing, I was able to enhance and keep video and audio quality; practically equivalent to any dvd I?ve. Hey for the stuff I got out of that ANALOGUE card. It was worth the 20!
:Q
 
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: Googer
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: Googer
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: Googer
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: Googer
Originally posted by: Excelsior
For the xbox: http://www.x2vga.com/

Even better, with this:
http://www.viewsonic.com/products/accessories/tvvideoprocessors/nextvisionn6/

uh..but that is more than 3x the cost, and if you just have an xbox, doesn't really help much.

Please explain.


You can get a less capable N5 and watch TV on yout PC Monitor. Viewsonic's webpage says (for the N6):
You can view your own video content in multiple resolutions up to 1280x1024.
meaning any resolution below 1280x1024 can be displayed. Lower Resolutions are de-interlaced and upconverted to 1280x1024.

Notice that I did not recomend the HD12 with the HDTV tuner installed. It would do the same as the N6 but do it a little bit better.

I stand by my claim...if someone wants to simply hook their xbox up to their computer monitor, nothing more than the X2VGA+ is needed. Agree?

If they would like to do more, sure, I bet the Nextvision N6 is a wonderful piece of hardware.

the N6 or HD12 is much more flexible and does the same thing as the X2VGA and is not application specific. The Nextivision will still be in use when XBOX2 comes out and you will not need a new adapter. And Imagine all of the other possibilities you could do with an N6 or HD12.

The X2VGA certainly is better than the TV Tuner Idea someone mentioned earlier.

Yes, you are correct, I won't deny that. Still, none of your statements refute the fact that the n6 is more expensive. What if someone only has an xbox, and they weren't interested in the xbox360 (I know, not likely, but still). Why would they need to spend more on hardware that they wouldnt fully utilize when they could get the x2vga and it would work just fine?

Because he has no televison in the room where he wants the XBOX, the N6 (HD12) would alow him to Watch TV and will prevent him from having to buy another adaper for what ever else he may like to connect to his monitor.



Also some one said most monitors cannot display 720p. I say they must be joking. ALMOST Every CRT monitor I have used or owend since 1995-1996 has been able to display a maximum resolution of 1600x1200. More expensive ($500 and UP) Graphics and Professional level Monitors could display higher.

Your reading comprehension sucks. I wasn't talking about the guy this thread, I was talking about a theoretical person/situation. Even then, sure he doesn't have a TV in his room, but where did he say he wanted to watch TV?

I was not too clear in my explanation. The X2VGA is a one trick pony. And the Point about tv viewing is he says he was forced to remove the TV from the room because he needed the space. The N6 (or HD12 idealy) can take it's place as the enetertainment hub for that room.
 
Originally posted by: Googer
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: Googer
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: Googer
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: Googer
Originally posted by: Excelsior
For the xbox: http://www.x2vga.com/

Even better, with this:
http://www.viewsonic.com/products/accessories/tvvideoprocessors/nextvisionn6/

uh..but that is more than 3x the cost, and if you just have an xbox, doesn't really help much.

Please explain.


You can get a less capable N5 and watch TV on yout PC Monitor. Viewsonic's webpage says (for the N6):
You can view your own video content in multiple resolutions up to 1280x1024.
meaning any resolution below 1280x1024 can be displayed. Lower Resolutions are de-interlaced and upconverted to 1280x1024.

Notice that I did not recomend the HD12 with the HDTV tuner installed. It would do the same as the N6 but do it a little bit better.

I stand by my claim...if someone wants to simply hook their xbox up to their computer monitor, nothing more than the X2VGA+ is needed. Agree?

If they would like to do more, sure, I bet the Nextvision N6 is a wonderful piece of hardware.

the N6 or HD12 is much more flexible and does the same thing as the X2VGA and is not application specific. The Nextivision will still be in use when XBOX2 comes out and you will not need a new adapter. And Imagine all of the other possibilities you could do with an N6 or HD12.

The X2VGA certainly is better than the TV Tuner Idea someone mentioned earlier.

Yes, you are correct, I won't deny that. Still, none of your statements refute the fact that the n6 is more expensive. What if someone only has an xbox, and they weren't interested in the xbox360 (I know, not likely, but still). Why would they need to spend more on hardware that they wouldnt fully utilize when they could get the x2vga and it would work just fine?

Because he has no televison in the room where he wants the XBOX, the N6 (HD12) would alow him to Watch TV and will prevent him from having to buy another adaper for what ever else he may like to connect to his monitor.



Also some one said most monitors cannot display 720p. I say they must be joking. ALMOST Every CRT monitor I have used or owend since 1995-1996 has been able to display a maximum resolution of 1600x1200. More expensive ($500 and UP) Graphics and Professional level Monitors could display higher.

Having a higher max res is far from the same thing as having the timings built into the monitor for it. I'd imagine a CRT will just show an off centered image that will need to be manually recentered, but an LCD will show nothing. Try it for yourself, get a Key Digital, a Vdigi, or some other transcoder, and try to display a 720p xbox game on an LCD, most will not work.

does the N6 allow you to record yourself gaming while you're playing though?



Yes.

No, not unless you run it through a VCR first, in which case the N6 part of the equation is still doing nothing for it.
 
They make LCD monitors with TV tuners built in or as an add-on feature.

If you use a TV Card get a card with Hardware Decoding like the requirements for Windows MCE. That takes the strain of the processors and makes it more like a TV. Some TV Tuners have 2 Tuners with HardWare Decoding/encoding, where you can record on 2 channels and watch a third. 2 TV Tuners is supported in Windows MCE, but not in all versions.

Some people claim that the picture is too dim with some computer games and some TV Cards. This may just be the quality of the monitor, but different TV cards may have differing qualities.
 
Why the H-e Double-L would you want to record an EXBOX game? No one else but you would find that interesting. (I have watched recorded video games and it is boring)
 
Originally posted by: piasabird
They make LCD monitors with TV tuners built in or as an add-on feature.

If you use a TV Card get a card with Hardware Decoding like the requirements for Windows MCE. That takes the strain of the processors and makes it more like a TV. Some TV Tuners have 2 Tuners with HardWare Decoding/encoding, where you can record on 2 channels and watch a third. 2 TV Tuners is supported in Windows MCE, but not in all versions.

Some people claim that the picture is too dim with some computer games and some TV Cards. This may just be the quality of the monitor, but different TV cards may have differing qualities.


I'm pretty sure that hardware decoding would be bad for a console on a computer mainly because they supposedly add that delay between what's shown on the screen and the buttons used on the console, making most sports/action games unplayable. Although i think there's some way around this, it's might not be the best/easiest thing to do. Especially since I believe you lose the ability to record games if that was ever important.
 
Originally posted by: duragezic
So what's the best way to watch TV on a 2005FPW? Would a VCR output through composite (yellow RCA)?

I'd say best would be the N6, most likely has a better scaler than the 2005FPW. But for just general TV viewing and not dvds or video games, composite should be good enough.
 
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