how do u ask your parents for money?

[BatmanNate]

Originally posted by: shady06
when i have children i will send them to the most expensive school in a brand spankin new BMW or Mercedes

That's self defeating because people that do not learn the value of hard work are unlikely to do so later on in life so one generation can support the next, but it does not continue much further down the line.

 

[gopunk]

Originally posted by: BatmanNate
Does it not at all bother you being dependent? I couldn't feel accomplished at all if I didn't earn my own way. It would seriously distort my sense of value and I would take everything for granted.

can't speak for him, but it doesn't bother me a bit.... it's just a different culture (well mine is asian, i'm guessing he is too). your parents take care of you, you take care of your parents. like i would never stick my parents in an old people home, and would be fine with them living in my house when they're too old to take care of themselves.

 

[dighn]

Originally posted by: shady06

Originally posted by: BatmanNate
Does it not at all bother you being dependent? I couldn't feel accomplished at all if I didn't earn my own way. It would seriously distort my sense of value and I would take everything for granted.

not at all, cuz i know if i had to work i can. i worked the summer before this and this summer i decided to volunteer (i needed some community service).

besides, the worst thing i can possibly do is get bad grades in my parents eyes. THAT dissapointed them, not working is not a dissapointment for them

heheh everything you said sound like an asian family.. though your name doesnt look asian.

 

[ed21x]

Originally posted by: shady06
when i have children i will send them to the most expensive school in a brand spankin new BMW or Mercedes

Expensive cars and money can't buy intelligence. Coming from Laguna Hills HS, most of my friends are rich spoiled, naive, and unfortunately, not going to accomplish half of what their parents were capable of. It's simply a depressing sight when a generation of kids go off to community college, while most of their parents came out of extremely respected institutions and did everything they can to give them good opportunities.

 

[FoBoT]

don't

you will regret it

get a job

 

[Jugernot]

Originally posted by: shady06
did anyone ask what i do during the day? no!

well, i volunteer. i'm such a leech on society

AND???? You are a leech on your parents...

You are 19 freaking years old... grow up!

 

[Corporate Thug]

Originally posted by: Jugernot

Originally posted by: shady06
did anyone ask what i do during the day? no!

well, i volunteer. i'm such a leech on society

AND???? You are a leech on your parents...

You are 19 freaking years old... grow up!

i think my parents are the best judge of that. i'm not forcing them to give me money and if they feel i'm a leech they can stop providing me with funds

btw, i'm white

 

[gopunk]

btw, i'm white

oh... well in that case get a job you lazy bum

 

[BatmanNate]

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: BatmanNate
Does it not at all bother you being dependent? I couldn't feel accomplished at all if I didn't earn my own way. It would seriously distort my sense of value and I would take everything for granted.

can't speak for him, but it doesn't bother me a bit.... it's just a different culture (well mine is asian, i'm guessing he is too). your parents take care of you, you take care of your parents. like i would never stick my parents in an old people home, and would be fine with them living in my house when they're too old to take care of themselves.

You must understand there is a difference between taking care of someone (ie helping pay for school related costs) or giving them a new BMW to drive to school. "Help" assumes a supplementary relationship in my view, so they get the benefit but still learn the value of earning it.

 

[Corporate Thug]

Originally posted by: ed21x

Originally posted by: shady06
when i have children i will send them to the most expensive school in a brand spankin new BMW or Mercedes

Expensive cars and money can't buy intelligence. Coming from Laguna Hills HS, most of my friends are rich spoiled, naive, and unfortunately, not going to accomplish half of what their parents were capable of. It's simply a depressing sight when a generation of kids go off to community college, while most of their parents came out of extremely respected institutions and did everything they can to give them good opportunities.

never said it bought intelligence, but my dad has always told me that you gotta always try to make your kids lives better than yours so i will always try to provide them with the best of everything

 

[Corporate Thug]

Originally posted by: BatmanNate

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: BatmanNate
Does it not at all bother you being dependent? I couldn't feel accomplished at all if I didn't earn my own way. It would seriously distort my sense of value and I would take everything for granted.

can't speak for him, but it doesn't bother me a bit.... it's just a different culture (well mine is asian, i'm guessing he is too). your parents take care of you, you take care of your parents. like i would never stick my parents in an old people home, and would be fine with them living in my house when they're too old to take care of themselves.

You must understand there is a difference between taking care of someone (ie helping pay for school related costs) or giving them a new BMW to drive to school. "Help" assumes a supplementary relationship in my view, so they get the benefit but still learn the value of earning it.

i wish ANYONE in the family has a BMW. pretty modest cars here:

dad: 96 accord
mom: 00 cavalier
bro: 99 altima
me: waitng on 02 maxima

no BMW's here!

 

[gopunk]

Originally posted by: BatmanNate

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: BatmanNate
Does it not at all bother you being dependent? I couldn't feel accomplished at all if I didn't earn my own way. It would seriously distort my sense of value and I would take everything for granted.

can't speak for him, but it doesn't bother me a bit.... it's just a different culture (well mine is asian, i'm guessing he is too). your parents take care of you, you take care of your parents. like i would never stick my parents in an old people home, and would be fine with them living in my house when they're too old to take care of themselves.

You must understand there is a difference between taking care of someone (ie helping pay for school related costs) or giving them a new BMW to drive to school. "Help" assumes a supplementary relationship in my view, so they get the benefit but still learn the value of earning it.

uh... well what i thought you meant by "dependent" is that they pay for your school, books, food, housing... i didn't know that *had* to include getting a new BMW or some other luxury item

 

[Jugernot]

Originally posted by: shady06

Originally posted by: BatmanNate

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: BatmanNate
Does it not at all bother you being dependent? I couldn't feel accomplished at all if I didn't earn my own way. It would seriously distort my sense of value and I would take everything for granted.

can't speak for him, but it doesn't bother me a bit.... it's just a different culture (well mine is asian, i'm guessing he is too). your parents take care of you, you take care of your parents. like i would never stick my parents in an old people home, and would be fine with them living in my house when they're too old to take care of themselves.

You must understand there is a difference between taking care of someone (ie helping pay for school related costs) or giving them a new BMW to drive to school. "Help" assumes a supplementary relationship in my view, so they get the benefit but still learn the value of earning it.

i wish ANYONE in the family has a BMW. pretty modest cars here:

dad: 96 accord
mom: 00 cavalier
bro: 99 altima
me: waitng on 02 maxima

no BMW's here!

Lemme guess, mommy and daddy bought you the 02 Maxima too.... :|

 

[BatmanNate]

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: BatmanNate

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: BatmanNate
Does it not at all bother you being dependent? I couldn't feel accomplished at all if I didn't earn my own way. It would seriously distort my sense of value and I would take everything for granted.

can't speak for him, but it doesn't bother me a bit.... it's just a different culture (well mine is asian, i'm guessing he is too). your parents take care of you, you take care of your parents. like i would never stick my parents in an old people home, and would be fine with them living in my house when they're too old to take care of themselves.

You must understand there is a difference between taking care of someone (ie helping pay for school related costs) or giving them a new BMW to drive to school. "Help" assumes a supplementary relationship in my view, so they get the benefit but still learn the value of earning it.

uh... well what i thought you meant by "dependent" is that they pay for your school, books, food, housing... i didn't know that included getting a new BMW....

It was brought up earlier in the thread, and I was using as an illustration between one end of the spectrum and the other. The person attending school should work to pay for some of it and the parents could kick in for some as well, because hard work is a lesson in and of itself that is of as much value as what can be learned in school. Shady assumed that he would one day have equal or greater earning power as his father (who is from a completely different background from the sound of it, big surprise) when he stated that he would buy his kids BMW's to send them to school in...

 

[Corporate Thug]

Originally posted by: Jugernot

Originally posted by: shady06

Originally posted by: BatmanNate

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: BatmanNate
Does it not at all bother you being dependent? I couldn't feel accomplished at all if I didn't earn my own way. It would seriously distort my sense of value and I would take everything for granted.

can't speak for him, but it doesn't bother me a bit.... it's just a different culture (well mine is asian, i'm guessing he is too). your parents take care of you, you take care of your parents. like i would never stick my parents in an old people home, and would be fine with them living in my house when they're too old to take care of themselves.

You must understand there is a difference between taking care of someone (ie helping pay for school related costs) or giving them a new BMW to drive to school. "Help" assumes a supplementary relationship in my view, so they get the benefit but still learn the value of earning it.

i wish ANYONE in the family has a BMW. pretty modest cars here:

dad: 96 accord
mom: 00 cavalier
bro: 99 altima
me: waitng on 02 maxima

no BMW's here!

Lemme guess, mommy and daddy bought you the 02 Maxima too.... :|

damn straight. but here are the reason. my dad go his car in 97 so back then it was pretty damn good. mom is a Chevy zealot and she got hers in 01 so it was pretty new

bro got his car in 01 so it wasnt old by any means

my car is in the process of being purchased. they will be paying less for my car than what my dad paid for his and about the same for what he paid for my bros.

btw, if you think im bad, my bro was 21 when he got his car and didnt pay a penny

 

[gopunk]

Originally posted by: BatmanNate

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: BatmanNate

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: BatmanNate
Does it not at all bother you being dependent? I couldn't feel accomplished at all if I didn't earn my own way. It would seriously distort my sense of value and I would take everything for granted.

can't speak for him, but it doesn't bother me a bit.... it's just a different culture (well mine is asian, i'm guessing he is too). your parents take care of you, you take care of your parents. like i would never stick my parents in an old people home, and would be fine with them living in my house when they're too old to take care of themselves.

You must understand there is a difference between taking care of someone (ie helping pay for school related costs) or giving them a new BMW to drive to school. "Help" assumes a supplementary relationship in my view, so they get the benefit but still learn the value of earning it.

uh... well what i thought you meant by "dependent" is that they pay for your school, books, food, housing... i didn't know that included getting a new BMW....

It was brought up earlier in the thread, and I was using as an illustration between one end of the spectrum and the other. The person attending school should work to pay for some of it and the parents could kick in for some as well, because hard work is a lesson in and of itself that is of as much value as what can be learned in school. Shady assumed that he would one day have equal or greater earning power as his father (who is from a completely different background from the sound of it, big surprise) when he stated that he would buy his kids BMW's to send them to school in...

right, i saw all that... not trying to be difficult, but i really don't see how this is relevant to your comments about being dependent...

unless you were talking about dependent for tuition...? but i don't see why tuition should be any different from food, shelter, etc. my parents pay for my tuition... i still work a good deal... but not having to worry about tuition allows me to get jobs that are better for my resume but lower paying.

 

[BatmanNate]

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: BatmanNate

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: BatmanNate

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: BatmanNate
Does it not at all bother you being dependent? I couldn't feel accomplished at all if I didn't earn my own way. It would seriously distort my sense of value and I would take everything for granted.

can't speak for him, but it doesn't bother me a bit.... it's just a different culture (well mine is asian, i'm guessing he is too). your parents take care of you, you take care of your parents. like i would never stick my parents in an old people home, and would be fine with them living in my house when they're too old to take care of themselves.

You must understand there is a difference between taking care of someone (ie helping pay for school related costs) or giving them a new BMW to drive to school. "Help" assumes a supplementary relationship in my view, so they get the benefit but still learn the value of earning it.

uh... well what i thought you meant by "dependent" is that they pay for your school, books, food, housing... i didn't know that included getting a new BMW....

It was brought up earlier in the thread, and I was using as an illustration between one end of the spectrum and the other. The person attending school should work to pay for some of it and the parents could kick in for some as well, because hard work is a lesson in and of itself that is of as much value as what can be learned in school. Shady assumed that he would one day have equal or greater earning power as his father (who is from a completely different background from the sound of it, big surprise) when he stated that he would buy his kids BMW's to send them to school in...

right, i saw all that... not trying to be difficult, but i really don't see how this is relevant to your comments about being dependent...

Because there is a difference between dependency on tuition and dependency on everything from computers to cars to clothes. Some of us choose to make our way entirely by ourselves, that's fine. Some of us go in for what we can and are helped with the rest, that's fine too. But to just take a free ride can't be very satisfying and will more likely than not set you up for a fall later in life. That was what I was trying to convey, sorry if I mislead you, gopunk.

 

[AdamDuritz99]

I don't.

peace
sean

 

[Corporate Thug]

But to just take a free ride can't be very satisfying and will more likely than not set you up for a fall later in life

i think the reason i did so well in HS, got into a good college, and am doing well at college is cuz i can focus on it cuz i have a "free ride"

 

[gopunk]

Because there is a difference between dependency on tuition and dependency on everything from computers to cars to clothes. Some of us choose to make our way entirely by ourselves, that's fine. Some of us go in for what we can and are helped with the rest, that's fine too. But to just take a free ride can't be very satisfying and will more likely than not set you up for a fall later in life. That was what I was trying to convey, sorry if I mislead you, gopunk.

ah i see what you mean... yes, i'd have to somewhat agree with you (on dependency in regards to luxury items... right?)

 

[BatmanNate]

Originally posted by: gopunk

Because there is a difference between dependency on tuition and dependency on everything from computers to cars to clothes. Some of us choose to make our way entirely by ourselves, that's fine. Some of us go in for what we can and are helped with the rest, that's fine too. But to just take a free ride can't be very satisfying and will more likely than not set you up for a fall later in life. That was what I was trying to convey, sorry if I mislead you, gopunk.

ah i see what you mean... yes, i'd have to somewhat agree with you (on dependency in regards to luxury items... right?)

Yes, that is what I meant.

 

[BatmanNate]

Originally posted by: shady06

But to just take a free ride can't be very satisfying and will more likely than not set you up for a fall later in life

i think the reason i did so well in HS, got into a good college, and am doing well at college is cuz i can focus on it cuz i have a "free ride"

Doing well in school is different that doing well in the working world.

 

[Corporate Thug]

Originally posted by: BatmanNate

Originally posted by: shady06

But to just take a free ride can't be very satisfying and will more likely than not set you up for a fall later in life

i think the reason i did so well in HS, got into a good college, and am doing well at college is cuz i can focus on it cuz i have a "free ride"

Doing well in school is different that doing well in the working world.

i completely agree but i think it's fair to say that one is more likely to succeed in the working world if he or she gets a good education compared to someone who is uneducated

 

[BatmanNate]

Originally posted by: shady06

Originally posted by: BatmanNate

Originally posted by: shady06

But to just take a free ride can't be very satisfying and will more likely than not set you up for a fall later in life

i think the reason i did so well in HS, got into a good college, and am doing well at college is cuz i can focus on it cuz i have a "free ride"

Doing well in school is different that doing well in the working world.

i completely agree but i think it's fair to say that one is more likely to succeed in the working world if he or she gets a good education compared to someone who is uneducated

In most cases it's a mixture of education and ambition or work ethic. Bill Gates did not even attend college, IIRC. In some cases there is ambition and that is enough. But if you have education with no ambition you won't get far.

 

[Lager]

Don't you have a credit card?