How do Southerners view Lincoln?

[WelshBloke]

What no response from the WelshBloke.

What? You want a response about the British involvement in the slave trade?

It was shameful, and is considered shameful by pretty much everyone in the UK. Thats the difference see, we don't make excuses like "well slave owners treated their slaves well so it was OK".

You need to man up and accept that the south were wrong and theres nothing to be proud of in supporting slavery.

 

[pcgeek11]

I didn't recall anyone saying they were proud or supported slavery. ????

 

[WelshBloke]

I didn't recall anyone saying they were proud or supported slavery. ????

OK so do you want to state now how you feel about the south having slavery and the fact that they were willing to break up your nation just so that they could continue to do so.

Try and do it this time without distractions like 'well they treated the slaves well' or 'but, but, black people had slaves as well'.

 

[pcgeek11]

OK so do you want to state now how you feel about the south having slavery and the fact that they were willing to break up your nation just so that they could continue to do so.

Try and do it this time without distractions like 'well they treated the slaves well' or 'but, but, black people had slaves as well'.

I was just stating the facts. I really don't give a shit, it was long before I was born. The civil war wasn't just about slavery as so many of the uneducated like to stress at every opportunity. Do a little more reading and research on the subject and you will see.

How do you feel about Britain kidnapping and selling innocent people into slavery for decades just for the money... Or raping India, Africa, and many other nations...

As of the original post Lincoln didn't give two shits about the Blacks or if they remained slaves or not ( as was stated in his own words ). His only objective during the civil war was to maintain the united nation and to preserve the GDP of the South.

 

[Linflas]

OK so do you want to state now how you feel about the south having slavery and the fact that they were willing to break up your nation just so that they could continue to do so.

Try and do it this time without distractions like 'well they treated the slaves well' or 'but, but, black people had slaves as well'.

How about we be totally honest regarding this then? Slavery in what eventually became the United States started while it was part of England and legally established under English law. The reason it flourished in the south and died out in the north was due to climate and geography, not because of any grand moral crusade regarding the evils of slavery. England itself was well settled at the time of the colonization of the Americas along with not having the climate and geography nor any crop to support any establishment of a large scale system of slavery there but there was slavery in Britain until it was officially abolished in 1833 (unless it was in territories controlled by the East India Company). Is it your belief that if a large chunk of the British economy in 1833 depended on slave labor that law would have been enacted?

Do you really think there was any way other than war to end it in the US? The most valuable property plantation owners "owned" was their slaves, not the land, not the crops. The elimination of the slave trade perversely made them even more valuable to plantation owners who for the most part were up to their ears in generational debt which financed the facade of the aristocratic lifestyle they led.