How do people NOT know how to swim?

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waggy

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the flying thing is insane. if you are flying over hte ocean and crash do you think knowing hot to swim is going to really matter?
 

MotionMan

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It's not phobia driven, I just don't care to travel anywhere. I live in the perfect place and have no desires to go anywhere I couldn't get by car. Believe it or not some people never learn how to swim not out of fear, but out of they don't want to learn. I know how to swim but I've never actually needed to rely on it. It's a useless, but fun thing to me. For anyone who doesn't have interest in it, just the useless part would apply.

Do you think people should learn CPR?

I know I'll never because I have no desire too, I hate cold so for that reason alone I'll never be around ice. And flying is just meh to me because there's nowhere of interest for me to fly.

Where do you live and how old are you?

MotionMan
 

QueBert

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Do you think people should learn CPR?



Where do you live and how old are you?

MotionMan

Learning CPR's good because you can choke anywhere, learning to swim should be done for pleasure unless you live right by the water. It makes sense for a person who lives near a lake to know how to swim. If they live in Lancaster (pure desert) and they're going to spend their entire life there. I don't really see it being a useful skill to have. I'm 37 and live in So Cal. I can swim for miles, but I realize that for me it's purely for the fun of it.
 
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Baked

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Parental fail as always. My mom took me to the public swimming pool as soon as I can walk. I need to get back to swimming though, running is killing my joints.
 

waggy

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Learning CPR's good because you can choke anywhere, learning to swim should be done for pleasure unless you live right by the water. It makes sense for a person who lives in a lake to know how to swim. If they live in Lancaster (pure desert) and they're going to spend their entire life there. I don't really see it being a useful skill to have.

I live in IL the closest lake is well far away. closest thing we have is the Mississippi river. witch is not something i really want to swim in.

only thing i swimming pools. we don't have one.

while my kids know how to swim i can understand why some don't. there aren't a lot of opturnity's to go swimming here.
 

momeNt

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If you've ever taken a small dog and held it just above the surface of a pool, it instinctively begins the dog paddle motion. Humans don't have this instinct.

Consider it similar to the footage of Iraqi/Afghani soldiers trying to do jumping jacks for the first time.

You sick fuck, that's torturing the dogs.

Seriously though its funny to do that lol.
 

MotionMan

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Learning CPR's good because you can choke anywhere, learning to swim should be done for pleasure unless you live right by the water. It makes sense for a person who lives in a lake to know how to swim. If they live in Lancaster (pure desert) and they're going to spend their entire life there. I don't really see it being a useful skill to have. I'm 37 and live in So Cal. I can swim for miles, but I realize that for me it's purely for the fun of it.

ORLY? - City of Lancaster: Aquatics Division

MotionMan
 

pelov

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You sick fuck, that's torturing the dogs.

Seriously though its funny to do that lol.

I've actually went so far as to test this. I wanted to know how small the quantity of water has to be in order for my little pooch to start doggy paddlin'. He did it over a cup of water (granted he's like 6lbs). I then took a small tea cup and he wouldn't do it, but as soon as I showed him it was filled with water and then hovered him over the tea cup he started to paddle again.
 

QueBert

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Yes, a pool you have to not only go out of your way to get to, but pay to use. The people who use that pool logically will want to swim. Seeing how they had to seek it out and pay to gain access. I'm going to have to just imagine a person who doesn't give 2 shits about swimming isn't going to go there. Therefor it would e impossible for a person who doesn't care about swimming to accidently fall into this pool and need to know how to swim in order to save themselves. But I guess they should learn how to swim any ways because there's probably a .000001% chance someone will kidnap them and they'll end up tossed in this pool.
 
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MotionMan

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Yes, a pool you have to not only go out of your way to get to, but pay to use. The people who are in that pool logically will want to swim. Seeing how they had to seek it out and pay to gain access. I'm going to have to just imagine a person who doesn't give 2 shits about swimming isn't going to go there.

Should I list all the pool builders based in Lancaster, too?

The fact is that, for most people, you cannot simply avoid being around water - the water comes to you.

All it takes is one gate that does not close all the way and one little kid to wander into a yard with a pool and then you spend the rest of your life thinking about how you could only stand on the edge of the pool and watch her die.

MotionMan
 

QueBert

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Should I list all the pool builders based in Lancaster, too?

The fact is that, for most people, you cannot simply avoid being around water - the water comes to you.

All it takes is one gate that does not close all the way and one little kid to wander into a yard with a pool and then you spend the rest of your life thinking about how you could only stand on the edge of the pool and watch her die.

MotionMan

most people where? Where I live most people have never been around water in their life, my friends grandma would make up the normal around here. I can't speak for other areas, but I know for myself every time I've been around water I had to actively seek it out. I can't remember the last time I just happened to end up near it. But I live in the hood where things are different, there's probably 300 houses in my neighborhood and you won't find a single pool.
 
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MotionMan

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Therefor it would e impossible for a person who doesn't care about swimming to accidently fall into this pool and need to know how to swim in order to save themselves. But I guess they should learn how to swim any ways because there's probably a .000001% chance someone will kidnap them and they'll end up tossed in this pool.

Are you in California? Do you have an earthquake kit?

MotionMan
 

MotionMan

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most people where? Where I live most people have never been around water in their life, my friends grandma would make up the normal around here. I can't speak for other areas, but I know for myself every time I've been around water I had to actively seek it out. I can't remember the last time I just happened to end up near it. But I live in the hood where things are different, 300 houses in my neighborhood and there's not a single pool.

Again, where are you talking about?

MotionMan
 

IGemini

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I can swim. That said, I'm not very good at it. One of my first experiences nearly drowning as a kid didn't help the process, and ever since subluxing my shoulder twice from swimming in high school, I haven't really done it since then.
 

QueBert

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Again, where are you talking about?

MotionMan

Outside of living right by water where the ability is actually very useful. Swimming's a luxury thing. Where I live people are worried about shit like being racially profile by cops. Shot by cops, shot by gang members. People here are lucky if they make it to see 25 years old. Swimming isn't a life skill, and when your focusing on shit like not being killed, you're probably not going to worry about the fact you don't know how to swim.

If you want to have the though process that people should learn shit based off what could happen in a situation. Then everyone should be pretty much constantly learning all sorts of new shit so they can be ready *if* that potential 1 in a million thing pops up. I don't know how to treat a Rattle Snake bite, and numerous other things that could save mine or anothers life. I better get to learning everything huh?
 
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MotionMan

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Outside of living right by water where the ability is actually very useful. Swimming's a luxury thing. Where I live people are worried about shit like being racially profile by cops. Shot by cops, shot by gang members. People here are lucky if they make it to see 25 years old. Swimming isn't a life skill, and when your focusing on shit like not being killed, you're probably not going to worry about the fact you don't know how to swim.

Where?

If you want to have the though process that people should learn shit based off what could happen in a situation. Then everyone should be pretty much constantly learning all sorts of new shit so they can be ready *if* that potential 1 in a million thing pops up.

I actually do think that people should learn as many lifesaving skills as possible throughout their entire life.

MotionMan
 

MotionMan

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I don't know how to treat a Rattle Snake bite, and numerous other things that could save mine or anothers life. I better get to learning everything huh?

Yes. Why wouldn't you want to learn a new lifesaving skill every year?

MotionMan
 

lokiju

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I grew up on a intercoastal waterway at a house with a pool and walking distance from the beach.

My parents taught me how to swim before I can even remember. I don't have any memories of learning to swim or a time I can remember not knowing how.

My son is 3 now and my wife and I are looking into a local aquatic center to see if we can get him started on swimming lessons.