How do people not always make big deals about health problems?

[manlymatt83]

Enter person A:

Unhealthy person, diagnosed with high blood pressure. Told by his doctor to lose weight. Immediately loses weight, gets in shape, works out, and his/her health becomes his number one priority, sometimes unfortunately obsessively (I speak from personal experience here, but also through the light of friends).

Enter person B:

Unhealthy person, diagnosed with high blood pressure. Told by his doctor to lose weight. Doesn't really care, eats fatty/fried foods still, makes work their #1 priority, and forgets all about the problem, and/or denies the problem even exists.


Enter person "C" (added by the request of responders):

Someone who is Person B, until such time as they realize they need to change, and then switches to Person A, before its too late.



Please, enlighten me as to why person A must become so obsessive, and to why person B doesn't seem to care at all. Surely it'd be great to find a happy medium.

Thoughts?

 

[xSauronx]

staying healthy is too much like work.

 

[bctbct]

I am relatively healthy but when I have a ailment I usually think it will go away. Last year I found out I had high cholestorol, it took me 11 months to go get it retested. Turns out the first test was inaccurate.

When I was a kid we didnt get hauled to the doctor for a cold. Infact we didnt get cold medicine and stuff like that. We eventually got better and I think that is why I dont overeact to medical issues and why I think people that do need to suck it up and quit being a baby.

 

[Journer]

your going to die anyways...

 

[vi edit]

A lot people fail at moderation in their lives. Eating. Exercising. Working.

/me looks at post count

 

[funkymatt]

Originally posted by: vi_edit
A lot people fail at moderation in their lives. Eating. Exercising. Working.

/me looks at post count

holy sh!ti

 

[ppdes]

I'd support B if he was making having fun his #1 priority. Who cares what size he prefers to be. But putting work first is a waste unless he works for himself.

 

[adairusmc]

Originally posted by: Journer
your going to die anyways...

:thumbsup:

I excersise and whatnot, but I am not going to get obsessive about it. I have high blood pressure, but if that means giving up most of the food I enjoy, then it is just not worth it to me.

I would rather die at 40 enjoying a big ribeye than at 80 eating carrots.

 

[SludgeFactory]

Humans are lazy. The path of least resistance is the default. Going against that takes a lot of effort, eventually most people give up and slide back down into it. It's really not that surprising that a lot of people have to be somewhat obsessive to reach Scenario A, particularly if their genetics and environmental factors suck.

Person A is rare. Person B is far far more likely. One example that comes to mind, you'll see a disturbing number of diabetics continually fail to control their blood sugar and have a myriad of problems creep up on them, gradually lose toes, then feet, then legs, develop horrible non-healing wounds, lose vision, etc.

 

[spidey07]

The mind controls the body. It really is that simple.

Person A stresses so much that it is detrimental to their health and complicates thier problems, they die at age 37.

Person B has a much healthier mind and no worries, dies at 90.

 

[manlymatt83]

Originally posted by: spidey07
The mind controls the body. It really is that simple.

Person A stresses so much that it is detrimental to their health and complicates thier problems, they die at age 37.

Person B has a much healthier mind and no worries, dies at 90.

So because I'm paranoid and I work out every day and eat right, I'll die at 37?

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: mjuszczak

Originally posted by: spidey07
The mind controls the body. It really is that simple.

Person A stresses so much that it is detrimental to their health and complicates thier problems, they die at age 37.

Person B has a much healthier mind and no worries, dies at 90.

So because I'm paranoid and I work out every day and eat right, I'll die at 37?

In many ways, yes.

Excess is never good, especially stress/worry.

 

[George P Burdell]

I'd rather eat bacon every day and die of heart failure.

 

[imported_weadjust]

Person B here.
Takes sip of beer, lights a smoke, and moves on to next topic.

 

[Dirigible]

Originally posted by: mjuszczak

Originally posted by: spidey07
The mind controls the body. It really is that simple.

Person A stresses so much that it is detrimental to their health and complicates thier problems, they die at age 37.

Person B has a much healthier mind and no worries, dies at 90.

So because I'm paranoid and I work out every day and eat right, I'll die at 37?

At age 34, more likely, based on your posts I've read.

 

[Platypus]

Originally posted by: Dirigible

Originally posted by: mjuszczak

Originally posted by: spidey07
The mind controls the body. It really is that simple.

Person A stresses so much that it is detrimental to their health and complicates thier problems, they die at age 37.

Person B has a much healthier mind and no worries, dies at 90.

So because I'm paranoid and I work out every day and eat right, I'll die at 37?

At age 34, more likely, based on your posts I've read.

if that

 

[SirStev0]

American option: Pay or wait for a pill.

 

[CKent]

Originally posted by: mjuszczak
Enter person A:

Unhealthy person, diagnosed with high blood pressure. Told by his doctor to lose weight. Immediately loses weight, gets in shape, works out, and his/her health becomes his number one priority, sometimes unfortunately obsessively (I speak from personal experience here, but also through the light of friends).

Enter person B:

Unhealthy person, diagnosed with high blood pressure. Told by his doctor to lose weight. Doesn't really care, eats fatty/fried foods still, makes work their #1 priority, and forgets all about the problem, and/or denies the problem even exists.


Please, enlighten me as to why person A must become so obsessive, and to why person B doesn't seem to care at all. Surely it'd be great to find a happy medium.

Thoughts?

As person B, I don't really care. Life isn't rosy peaches for everyone kid.

 

[stinkynathan]

Originally posted by: CKent

Originally posted by: mjuszczak
Enter person A:

Unhealthy person, diagnosed with high blood pressure. Told by his doctor to lose weight. Immediately loses weight, gets in shape, works out, and his/her health becomes his number one priority, sometimes unfortunately obsessively (I speak from personal experience here, but also through the light of friends).

Enter person B:

Unhealthy person, diagnosed with high blood pressure. Told by his doctor to lose weight. Doesn't really care, eats fatty/fried foods still, makes work their #1 priority, and forgets all about the problem, and/or denies the problem even exists.


Please, enlighten me as to why person A must become so obsessive, and to why person B doesn't seem to care at all. Surely it'd be great to find a happy medium.

Thoughts?

As person B, I don't really care. Life isn't rosy peaches for everyone kid.

Whatever. The people around you sure care.

My dad is person B. He had a quadruple bypass a couple years ago right after he turned 50. He would have chest pains when he was mowing the lawn and the doctors said that his arteries were clogged enough that he would have been gone if he had a heart attack. He lost a ton of weight (he's not morbidly obese or anything, just very large gut) after his surgery but has gained it back, and maybe some more. He loves cooking at home and eats too much regularly. He works 100 miles away from where my mom lives so he maintains a tiny apartment for during the week and comes home for the weekends. He doesn't really have a kitchen so he eats a lot of shit there and I don't know that he really exercises.

See, it pisses me off the more I think about it. I'd sure like for him to be around when I get married and when my sister gets married. I'd like him to be able to see his grand kids when they're born. Who knows if that will happen?

Yes, I need to have a little sit down talk with him.

It's not all about you getting to enjoy your life by eating 23 Double Quarter-Pounders every day. Think about everyone else that enjoys spending time with you. My dad's ordeal was enough to get me running and watching what I eat more.

 

[Descartes]

I doubt that anyone with sufficiently high blood pressure to warrant concern is ignorant to it. Many people seem to be affected by something of a "boiling frog syndrome" in that they don't acknowledge the ramifications until it's too late. This usually leads to a response to the problem that is greatly amplified compared to what it would have been if they were more proactive. This is partly evidenced by the many sayings: "Wake-up call", "hair that broke the camel's back", etc. Unfortunately for some, when it's late it's too late.

That being said, I think moderation can be difficult unless you know your limits. How can you be moderate if you haven't experienced the extremes? I know how much I can drink because I've had too much, and I know to avoid those limits.

/rambling

 

[IGBT]

..denial.

 

[allisolm]

I doubt that anyone with sufficiently high blood pressure to warrant concern is ignorant to it.

That would be an erroneous conclusion. High blood pressure usually has no symptoms at all. Most people (myself included) have absolutely no idea they have high blood pressure until it's checked.

 

[imported_Baloo]

You ask why not? Not all people are hypochondriacs. Person A will die younger than person B, probably of a heart attack. Person B is healther than you give credit for, and is not a hypochondriac.

 

[DangerAardvark]

How are there so many people here defending people who ignore health problems? Apparently positive thinking prevents congestive heart failure. Who knew.

 

[waggy]

if its just system B then yeah i don't understand why they don't do something.

but some people have far more then that wrong. other things that will/can kill them eventually. no matter how much excercise they do it is not go ing to help.

personally i feel live your life and enjoy every minute you can.