How do I use a multimeter to test the charge of NIMH batteries?

timswim78

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I got a free multimeter with no instruction manual. I would like to use it to measure the mAh of my rechargeable AA and AAA batteries. However, I'm not sure what settings to use. I would appreciate any help. Here is a photo of the multimeter.

http://bibo.us/cl/meter.jpg

 

dighn

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it's not something you can measure with a multimeter easily. you could try looking up the voltage vs charge characteristics of a nimh battery but then different battires probably have different characteristics
 

timswim78

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Originally posted by: dighn
it's not something you can measure with a multimeter easily. you could try looking up the voltage vs charge characteristics of a nimh battery but then different battires probably have different characteristics

Bummer. I guess that I can use my BC-900 charger to do this, but I was looking for something a little faster.
 

Eli

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You can't measure amperage over time with your average DMM.

Edit: Well, you could.. but you would be measuring the time vs. amperage aspect and doing the calculations.
 

timswim78

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Thanks for the replies Eli and dighn. So, how does one measure the "charge" of nimh batteries?
 

Eli

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Originally posted by: timswim78
Thanks for the replies Eli and dighn. So, how does one measure the "charge" of nimh batteries?

The only real practical way is to use one of the fancy chargers available now.
 

jadinolf

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Originally posted by: dighn
it's not something you can measure with a multimeter easily. you could try looking up the voltage vs charge characteristics of a nimh battery but then different battires probably have different characteristics

:thumbsup:
 

Eli

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Originally posted by: timswim78
Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: timswim78
Thanks for the replies Eli and dighn. So, how does one measure the "charge" of nimh batteries?

The only real practical way is to use one of the fancy chargers available now.


OK, well I've got this one. It tests batteries, but it is a slow process.
http://www.bestfoto.com/Product%20Reviews/product%20review02.htm
Yes. You have to actually discharge the battery to measure its capacity, obviously.

It's probably only a 200mA load to test or something.
 

Jeff7

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Get a Triton battery charger (or a TritonII), set it to discharge at whatever rate you want, and it'll discharge the battery until it reaches X volts. I think 1.0V/cell is considered "dead" for NiMH, though it may be 0.8V, I don't remember.
It'll record how many mAh your battery has.

It also costs around $100. :Q

It's a damn capable charger though. The only thing I don't like is that it can't charge multiple individual cells. By that I mean this:
While it can charge several individual cells at a time, it does so when they're arranged in series: the entire collection is charged as a single battery, so each cell doesn't receive individual treatment from the charger. For that, you'd need a charger with independent charging circuits. I've got this Ansmann charger on the way. With that, I should be able to deliver a good charge to damn near any battery in existence. :D
 

0roo0roo

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what? no bounce test? drop em off a 20 story building. the more bounce, the more energy!
 

So

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Originally posted by: Jeff7
Get a Triton battery charger (or a TritonII), set it to discharge at whatever rate you want, and it'll discharge the battery until it reaches X volts. I think 1.0V/cell is considered "dead" for NiMH, though it may be 0.8V, I don't remember.
It'll record how many mAh your battery has.

It also costs around $100. :Q

It's a damn capable charger though. The only thing I don't like is that it can't charge multiple individual cells. By that I mean this:
While it can charge several individual cells at a time, it does so when they're arranged in series: the entire collection is charged as a single battery, so each cell doesn't receive individual treatment from the charger. For that, you'd need a charger with independent charging circuits. I've got this Ansmann charger on the way. With that, I should be able to deliver a good charge to damn near any battery in existence. :D

Why in gods name would you spend so much to charge batteries!?!?!
 

0roo0roo

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Originally posted by: So
Originally posted by: Jeff7
Get a Triton battery charger (or a TritonII), set it to discharge at whatever rate you want, and it'll discharge the battery until it reaches X volts. I think 1.0V/cell is considered "dead" for NiMH, though it may be 0.8V, I don't remember.
It'll record how many mAh your battery has.

It also costs around $100. :Q

It's a damn capable charger though. The only thing I don't like is that it can't charge multiple individual cells. By that I mean this:
While it can charge several individual cells at a time, it does so when they're arranged in series: the entire collection is charged as a single battery, so each cell doesn't receive individual treatment from the charger. For that, you'd need a charger with independent charging circuits. I've got this Ansmann charger on the way. With that, I should be able to deliver a good charge to damn near any battery in existence. :D

Why in gods name would you spend so much to charge batteries!?!?!

some people are anal.
 

her209

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Easiest way is to turn the dial to ACV 200 and put each probe into the AC outlet.
 

Oblivionaire

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If you want to use the multimeter you're going to have to put the battery under load. Given V=IR, R=V/I, if you want to draw lets say 500ma, that would be 1.5v/.5A=3ohms, so you'll need a 3 ohm resistor. Using some simple math I'm sure you can figure out how to calculate maH from that. Halve the resistor value of you want to draw 1A, double it if you want to draw 250ma.
 

Jeff7

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Originally posted by: So
Why in gods name would you spend so much to charge batteries!?!?!

Because I've lost batteries to cheap quick chargers that force-feed whatever they're given, to the point that I sometimes get less than 50 recharges.
 

Rubycon

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Originally posted by: Jeff7
Originally posted by: So
Why in gods name would you spend so much to charge batteries!?!?!

Because I've lost batteries to cheap quick chargers that force-feed whatever they're given, to the point that I sometimes get less than 50 recharges.


Not just that - the more sensitive chemistries (namely Lithium Poly) can rupture and catch fire in a blink with a poorly designed charger!
 

Jeff7

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Originally posted by: MS Dawn
Not just that - the more sensitive chemistries (namely Lithium Poly) can rupture and catch fire in a blink with a poorly designed charger!
That's the sort of thing which worries me these days - potentially flammable batteries in a culture of "Make it as cheap as possible. Cut corners when possible." Li-ion/poly batteries, as I understand it, are things where you really don't want to follow that philosophy. Anything that can create a fire is something that you don't want to go cheap on.
 

TECHBERT

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Years after, For anyone reading the nonsense posted by other people, the most accurate way to measure battery voltage is to set your analogue multimeter to Null DCV +or- 5 OR +or-25 and adjust the 0 ohm ADJ YELLOW knob til the needle on the measuring guage is at zero. Then plug your Black lead to the BLACK -COM socket and Red lead to the RED V m A ohm+ socket, then remove the caps from the electrodes and touch the BLACK to -Minus and RED to +Plus on a battery. For small batteries 5 volts or less make sure the selector switch on the multimeter is set to +or- 5, for 25 volts or less set to +or-25.

For Ah or mAh adjust the yellow ohm knob to zero all the way to the right or opposite to where the arrow is pointing and set selector switch to DC mA, for small mA set to equal or less values, for 10A set to the 10A that is indicated in RED beneath the 250mA selector setting, then plug the RED lead in to the RED 10A/250V FUSED socket. Do not touch the electrodes on an electric current of 10Amps for more than 15 seconds or the potentimeter/multimeter fuse will blow.

These measurement are up to -3% accurate.

You do not need to attach anything else to a battery all the components are in the multimeter Null DCV circuit.
I tested Lithium, Zinc Alkaline and NiMH, all show within the VOLTAGE RANGE stated on the batteries.

Professor Knowitall.
 

TECHBERT

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Really, that's why I measured my ones earlier and can show the needle, if you want to challenge me at least prove it with some science. You can not because I have a camera here to prove it. I will post the photo's later.
 

Sukhoi

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For NiMH voltage cannot be used for state of charge (SOC) because they're essentially flat at 1.2 V over about 10-90% SOC, and that also varies with temperature.

SOC and capacity are not the same thing. SOC is a relative measurement for a specific cell. Capacity is an absolute measurement.

mAh has a time component and cannot be determined with a single measurement.

Light reading: http://data.energizer.com/pdfs/nickelmetalhydride_appman.pdf
 

Darwin333

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Get a Triton battery charger (or a TritonII), set it to discharge at whatever rate you want, and it'll discharge the battery until it reaches X volts. I think 1.0V/cell is considered "dead" for NiMH, though it may be 0.8V, I don't remember.
It'll record how many mAh your battery has.

It also costs around $100. :Q

It's a damn capable charger though. The only thing I don't like is that it can't charge multiple individual cells. By that I mean this:
While it can charge several individual cells at a time, it does so when they're arranged in series: the entire collection is charged as a single battery, so each cell doesn't receive individual treatment from the charger. For that, you'd need a charger with independent charging circuits. I've got this Ansmann charger on the way. With that, I should be able to deliver a good charge to damn near any battery in existence. :D

Doh! Got duped into a necro thread. Didn't realize I was responding to a post over a decade old so nvmd.
 

TECHBERT

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I charged some flat batteries earlier and they measured zero, after an hour they had 120mAh, at full charge they have 600mAh. As they discharge the mA drops. And the Earth was flat hundreds of years ago til it got an upgrade, huh:)