how do I set up 4 win98 to a baricade router and not one a server

TungFree

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I just bought a baricade SMC router switcher 4 ports and they failed to ship the 4 Nic cards so all I can do for a week or more is read and understand how to install the 4 win98 computers I will have (now have 3 pentium 133 2 each and a pentiun 166 mhz and am getting an aa T-Bird 1.0 or 1.1 or 1.2 depending on how much cash is left after the other expenses.) since they are all gonna run on win 98 do I designate one as the vertual server and set it up as the instruction state? then after I do it do I need to install the baricade into the other computers or do I just install from the controll pannel? they mention nothing about what to put into the other 3 computers in the instructions - else I just am not getting it, sepecially since I cannnot do trial and error without the NICs :((

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TungFree

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BTW this is a Road Runner cable That will be installed in 6 weeks setup so they will setup I presume the modem and nick and no firewall I may try to ask the Installer ti insert my router between the modem and my NiC as a fire wall but they are not required to do it and he may refuse.
additionally I have both a scanner and a printer now connected to the parallel port scanner into computer printer into scanner. If I connect later both scanner and printer will the printer portion of the Baricade let me scan into any computer also? anyone try that ?

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bex0rs

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Let me clear up some of the confusion :)

First of all, good choice on the Barricade, it's a top-notch residential gateway (I still don't know why those things are referred to as routers, because they really aren't, but anyway.. )

The Barricade (at least the one that I played with) is configured by default to be a DHCP server for the client computers plugged into it meaning that all you need to do with your Win98 client is to plug it in and let it receive an IP address automatically. This should be the default Win98 setting. At that point, you can either use the provided SMC software or use the Barricade's web interface. I personally prefer the web interface. (And due to the plug 'n play nature of networking devices I don't believe in installing platform specific software.) The web interface is actually quite handy. All you need to do to access it is go to http://SMC.private.IP.here in your web browser. That SMC.private.IP.here is a number like 192.168.x.x but I don't remember what it is by default. To find it, just go start -> run > winipcfg and press advanced and then look for something like DHCP server or Gateway. (I don't have a 98 box handy so I can't actually verify this.) Once you get that IP address, just plug it into your web browser and if everything up to this point was set up right, the Barricade's configuration screen should appear.

RR should provide you with some crucial info such as your IP address, DNS servers, and Internet Gateway. It is also quite possible that they will automatically assign this info in which case all you need to do is set up the Barricade to be a DHCP client. All of this is pretty well laid out once you log in to the router. I can send you some screenshots of my configuration once you start setting it up if you get stuck or something.

You mentioned something about a virtual server. Basically this allows people on the internet to access some service you are trying to provide, like FTP or HTTP. In order to do this, you would have to set up the service on one of your win98 computers and then forward the appropriate tcp ports to it via the Barricade's configuration menu.

Also, I don't think that built in printer port will work with your scanner, but it should work just fine with your printer plugged directly in. You will have to install a special printer driver on each of your computers so that you can print over the network (rather than directly to a local parallel port). You can still connect your scanner to one of your computers.

It sounds like you don't really have much that you can test out right now, but in the meantime I'd suggest reading up on the manual and CD content. It's a pretty good resource.

~bex0rs


edit: fixed a confusing sentence
 

TungFree

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bexOrs :) hahahahaha
u take my breath away hahahahahah.... WOW!!

what a detailed presentation as I see u di it repeatedly for others. Indeed we are fortunate to have u amongst us hehe. at any rate I certainly appreciate your carefully organized help inputs hwerever I see u and it seems to be nearly on all threads that interest me.
I appreciate your willingness to share a picture of your setup and will certainly wish to see it. I will say I pretty much was ready for your summery input to me here as I read extensively all the help manuals that came with the barricade.
Initially I misunderstood thinking I was setting up one of my computers as a mock server, but aftewr some thinking it occured to me it was the Baricade I was setting up and it mattered not from what computer I did it.
and your stating it as that the baricade was infact the server- unless the RR ISP was to provide me with needed data to the baricade's acting as servr unless- "...ISP will automatically assign this info in which case all you need to do is set up the Barricade to be a DHCP client..."

so that gives me an intuitive feeling of it all. the material I read in the documentation was a bit simmilar to setting up an ftp server where u give certain privelages to certain persons and here it simply is certain of the LAN's computers.
Since I used to own an Commadore Amiga that always needed to be self tweaked many things clicked right. your input tied it together.

Thank u... **greatfull sigh**

Tungfree gr8dane@turquoise.net
 

bex0rs

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Thanks, I've just been bored the past couple of days and felt like sharing some knowledge, not to mention getting the post count up.

I love that song by Berlin.. =)

~bex0rs