How do I grant permission for start up programs?

tigersty1e

Golden Member
Dec 13, 2004
1,963
0
76
I have Rivatuner set to run at startup through the startup folder. Eveyrtime I turn on my computer, Vista asks permission to start the program.

How do I permanantely grant access for Rivatuner so I don't have to set click yes everytime?
 

mb

Lifer
Jun 27, 2004
10,233
2
71
Not possible AFAIK, at least not without disabling UAC and/or other security settings. If it were, a virus could name itself rivatuner.exe (or whatever) and run at start up freely.
 

tigersty1e

Golden Member
Dec 13, 2004
1,963
0
76
Even if the virus were named rivatuner.exe, I would click yes to grant access because I would think it was the Rivatuner program and not an actual virus.

Does that make sense?

Defeats the purpose of asking me, IMO.
 

Noema

Platinum Member
Feb 15, 2005
2,974
0
0
Originally posted by: tigersty1e
Even if the virus were named rivatuner.exe, I would click yes to grant access because I would think it was the Rivatuner program and not an actual virus.

Does that make sense?

Defeats the purpose of asking me, IMO.

Would you be clicking UAC prompts out of the blue when they popped if they were named after a program you trust? I don't think so. If I try to run Rivatuner and UAC prompts me, I know it's because the real program needs the token (the file's icon will indicate me that the program requires an admin token) and I will be expecting it. If I'm doing whatever, on the other hand, and UAC prompts me telling me rivatuner.exe wants to run, well, then I know something's fishy.

The whole purpose of UAC is too prevent the user from having admin privileges all the time(which is probably the no.1 reason Windows has always been so vulnerable) giving him temporary admin tokens to run programs instead. It's a compromise MS had to make in order to stop users from being admins all the time, without breaking most programs which do require admin privileges to run (many, many pre-vista apps require said privileges)

If it were possible to grant permanent permission to a program, it'd be easier for malware to exploit. Hence UAC calls for your attention everytime an admin token is required.
 

mechBgon

Super Moderator<br>Elite Member
Oct 31, 1999
30,699
1
0
I believe the new build of Rivatuner is Vista-compatible.
 

BLHealthy4life

Golden Member
Sep 24, 2003
1,297
0
76
Originally posted by: mechBgon
I believe the new build of Rivatuner is Vista-compatible.

Version 2.05 is, however, Vista still asks for permission to start Rivatuner of set to start with windows....

 

stevf

Senior member
Jan 26, 2005
290
0
0
did you install the program while logged in as adminstrator? that seems to help sometimes. Also does Vista home (and business too - at work so cant check) have the power user group? I set my main accounts at home to power user so I can run at less than admin and not have driver related programs complain or fail on startup
 

mb

Lifer
Jun 27, 2004
10,233
2
71
Originally posted by: tigersty1e
Even if the virus were named rivatuner.exe, I would click yes to grant access because I would think it was the Rivatuner program and not an actual virus.

Does that make sense?

Defeats the purpose of asking me, IMO.

There's more to it than just that. Let's say you have it set up so that the legit rivatuner.exe has permission to run without prompt. While you're surfing, you happen to pick up a new & wild exploit/virus that slips by your virus scanner. The virus just so happens to name itself rivatuner.exe. Since you've set the system up to permanently grant access to rivatuner.exe, the virus could execute without warning. If, however, you still had UAC controlling it, it would still pop up and ask you for permission.
Now, would you actually give permission to it if you thought/knew it was already running? If you said yes, then you might as well unplug your computer.