How do I get my CDrom/Cdwriter on different IDE's??

VladM

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Hi all, this is one for the experts...it boggles my mind.

I have a GA board, it's a VIA 693A chipset, the board is GA6vxe7+, and connected to it are 288mb ram, 633 cel @790, TNT2 32 mb, one Fireball 10G, one Fujitsu 15G,one Aopen 52x cdrom, and Aopen 12x cd burner. I am running win2k on the system, and due to some problems I've experienced I've had to reinstall win2k. This means that I had to reformat and start from schratch.

This is what happened now: The two optical drives (the two Aopens) are connected to different IDE's, and I know that for a fact 'cos I connected them, abd checked it, and it worked before I had to reinstall. What happens now is that win2k sees the two drives as being connected to the same IDE!!! In other words, when I open the device manager, and double click the cd drives, it shows, for both of them (after the manufacturer, and device type) Location 1(1). Now if I understand this correctly this means second IDE, second channel (since the first IDE is 0). Now how can this be, to have two drives on the same IDE channel. Once again, in the properties of BOTH drives it says that their location is 1(1). What's even more strange is that for the HD's it says that they are Location 0(0) BOTH OF THEM!!!

This was not like this before, i.e. each of the 4 devices had it's own location!!! Physically they are connected like this:

IDE1 - Fireball hd, Cd Burner
IDE2 - Fujitsu HD, Cd ROm.

What;s going on? My computer has developed gremlins lately, and I don't know why???? I ran the virus check and nothing!!!

Can someone help? Pleeeez?

Vlad.
 

m2super

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Maybe thats why you were having problems before! =]

ide 0 is the primary ide channel, your harddrives should be connected there!
ide 1 is the secondary channel and your cdroms should be located there!

you do NOT want hardrives on seperate channels, put both harddrives on ide0 and bothe cdroms on ide1!!
 

TunaBoo

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<< Maybe thats why you were having problems before! =]

ide 0 is the primary ide channel, your harddrives should be connected there!
ide 1 is the secondary channel and your cdroms should be located there!

you do NOT want hardrives on seperate channels, put both harddrives on ide0 and bothe cdroms on ide1!!
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That is an old wives tales.

You can put them any way. I would personally do it the way he does. I do a lot of HD to HD transfers. Therefore them on diff chans is good. Also, I do a lot of CD to CD copies. Thus, on diff chans would be good.

 

ukDave

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<<

<< Maybe thats why you were having problems before! =]

ide 0 is the primary ide channel, your harddrives should be connected there!
ide 1 is the secondary channel and your cdroms should be located there!

you do NOT want hardrives on seperate channels, put both harddrives on ide0 and bothe cdroms on ide1!!
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That is an old wives tales.

You can put them any way. I would personally do it the way he does. I do a lot of HD to HD transfers. Therefore them on diff chans is good. Also, I do a lot of CD to CD copies. Thus, on diff chans would be good.
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i disagree with your disagreement.

dave
 

VladM

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The reason that they are on diff channels is to be able to do cd to cd copies. That's what I've read, that's what I've done, it worked lovely before my machine decided to go bin Laden on me. What I want to know is how the heck can two devices have the same location in device manager. Something stinks there.
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Scootin159

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There are two conflicting issues here:

If you have HDD's on the same channel:
You can't do CD-ROM -> CD-RW Direct CD Copies

If you have HDD's on different channels:
Your HDD's can't run at ATA/66 (or ATA/100, or whatever they can run at, they are limited by the CD-ROM).

The optimum setup would be to buy a $15 Promise Ultra ATA/66 IDE Controller (PCI) & put your hard drives on that.
 

corkyg

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And that is why I have always, since 1993, used external SCSI CD burners . . . now changing to Firewire . . . still external. It is never a problem that way.
 

kmike75

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Interesting thought Corky, but I've been using an internal writer, cd rom, and two hard drives since the purchase of my first 4x4x6 hp. The hard drives are on IDE 0, the CD's on IDE 1. Works fine for me, and it's much cheaper.
 

Scootin159

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IDE 0: CD-RW, CD-ROM
IDE 1: DVD-ROM, Zip100
IDE 2: 30GB, 80GB
IDE 3: 30GB, 80GB

30GB drives in RAID 0, 80GB drives in RAID 1

Works like a dream :)
 

VladM

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This is exactly what I was affraid of... everyone has something to say, but it relates maybe 3,7% to what I've actually asked. Yes, it's great to hear that the combination of IDE 0 with one HD and CDROM and IDE 1 with other HD and CDBurner works, and boy do I know that it works very well....the problem is that I can't get it to happen now,
so once again, I (not so) humbly ask :


WHY DO I GET TWO DEVICES ON THE SAME CHANNELS IF I PHYSICALLY CONNECTED THEM TO DIFFERENT ONES????

Is there anyone who knows the answer, or are we just gonna sit and talk about how it should be done, and how Tom's/Dick's/Harry's arrangement works perfectly???