How do exhaust tips work?

Techie333

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Well....i wanna know everything about them. I heard from a friend that they are really easy to install....they add a few ponies....and produce a sporty sound.....so how do you know which one to get....what are the requirements (i have a '96 LE Camry Sedan). Do you just attach them to your current exhaust....how is that suppose to improve airflow and how do you attach it.......do ya hammer it in?

EDIT: First of all, sorry for posting this in the hot deals section earlier....I coud've sworn I posted it here. Thanks to some people who were being REAL ASSES, I realize that tips don't add any ponies....but I don't really car......i just wanna hear my engine...lol.......so if someone could answer the rest of the questions? By the way, I know little about cars because I'm still a teenager still in high school and the piece of s*** doesn't offer any auto classes cause we don't even have an automotive garage so dont thread crap!
 

iamwiz82

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actually, they do make the car go faster. This is because your engine releases "fast" particles. These "fast" particles need room to move out of the engine. The bigger the exhaust, the more particles that come out, and the faster you go. This is why all of those civics have them, and they go really fast.

Another thing that helps is a yellow banner that obscurs your view through the windshield. This makes your car more aerodynamic. It has something to do with physics, i think.
 

Rent

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If you want to hear your car, get a cone filter intake.

What type of car is this anyways?
 

BooneRebel

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The professional way would be to weld it on, but if you were professional you'd be replacing the entire exhaust, not just adding on a chrome tip. Most of the add-ons I've seen are screwed on or held in place by a pipe clamp. They just slide over the existing pipe & then tighten up. But it sounds like you've already learned the lesson here that you're not doing anything for performance, just looks. And anyone that looks closely will realize that it's just a tip & not a real exhaust system, which makes it just embarassing. I came back from lunch today behind a Honda Civic with a coffee-can that must have been 8 inches across. It made the car sound like a weed-whacker (not what I would consider 'sporty' in any event). Seeing a car like that just makes me want to blow it's doors off, just to show them that they're not fooling anyone. Sorry, I think you'd be better off looking at real performance improvements, not just a better look or sound. But then again, I stay away from most of the 'riceboy' add-ons anyway.
 

BCYL

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Exhaust tips dont do ANYTHING except for giving u a better appearance... it doesnt add sound or performance, just looks...

In order to get better performance, u will need to replace ur entire exhaust with one that has bigger pipes... By doing this, they exhaust gas can flow easier out the engine and through the exhaust system... that way, the engine doesnt have to "work" to get the exhaust out, thus enabling it to make more horsepower...

Stock exhaust usually have materials in the muffler to make it quietier... these materials will restrict airflow through the muffler thus decrease performance... Aftermarket mufflers, however, do not have these materials (cuz they dont care much about quietness, just performance), which means these mufflers will be louder than stock...

If you just want the sound, then simply replace your stock muffler with an aftermarket one... However this way, you will get little to no gain in performance...

If u want performance and sound, go with a complete exhaust system...
 

db

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The TIP won't make much difference in sound unless it something like a megaphone. Most slip on and are tightened w/ a screw.
 

db

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By the way, if you want to sound like the ricers for no cost whatsoever, just loosen or disconnect your muffler connection (assuming you have a pre-chamber/whatever upstream that also does some muffling.
 

Techie333

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alright......someone give me a break down of the exhaust system.....first comes.....the engine outputting to the pipe...then comes???

edit: can i had a new muffler then a exhaust tip...?
 

Adul

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Exhaust come fron the engine to the catalythic conveter. From there i goes to the read of the vehicle into a muffler and out the tailpipe.


if you want more performance replacing the entire exhaust system is a start. Then a new intake system so the engine breathes better is another thing you can do. But you better start saving up.
 

CocaCola5

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For a NA engines(non turbo) layout is like this,

-->intake(often called an airbox in stock form)--->intake manifold--->cylinder head--->header--->downpipe--->cat(catalytic converter)--->pipe(silencer tube)--->muffler--->exhaust tip.

The most efficient upgrade is to change your airbox and get a intake cone, it also makes the engine louder. After that work on the ed: cylinder head section. Anything after this offers very small increases unless you spend ALOT for custom piping works.

ED: Add intake manifold. Some upgrades that IMO is way more worthwhile than a off-the-shelf exhaust system, larger fuel injectors/fuel pump, camshaft/ecu remapping, front spoiler/side skirts.
 

db

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If you want to be legal (no disconnected exhaust) and have a ricer sound, contact several muffler shops to see what a good sounding muffler job would cost you, and you can get a tip too.
Gotta go now to wash my hands after typing this....
 

Thegonagle

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Uh, no it's not the tip that gives you results (except for visually screaming "pull me over, pull me over!"). It's the entire exhaust system. The results depend on how good/bad the original exhaust system is in the first place. For example, a cat back (which means replacing the muffler and all the pipes that attach to the original cat, back to the "tip") alone doesn't gain more than a couple peak HP on most Hondas, because what the factory puts on is pretty decent for stock tune (not to mention quiet). You start seeing benefits from larger "performance" exhausts only after you start to get more air into the engine in the first place. If you just want to "hear your engine," start by replacing the intake system. It sounds much cooler, IMO, and at low throttle you don't attract unnecessary attention.
 

db

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Hey Russ--if he chromes that coffee can, won't it be more like 130 hp?
 

Gillbot

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<< Hell, a coffee can will add 100 horsepower.

Russ, NCNE
>>



LMFAO!!!!

i got 2 sitting here, is that 200HP extra? WOOHOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Zenmervolt

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If it's just hearing your engine, you can do what I did last year.

1) Back car full of people into a parking spot such that the point at which the muffler connects to the main pipe is directly above the concrete stop-block.
2) Exit car and all go into video store.
3) Return to car and all jump in.
4) Notice that everyone jumpin in at once made the car bounce and wonder just what that sound was.
5) Start car and think something is not quite right.
6) Pull forward and hear your muffler grating against the concrete stop-block.
7) Notice that the "not quite right" sound has suddenly become louder.
8) When you get home, realise that the pipe going into the muffler was so rusty that it has very cleanly disconnected itself from the muffler after contacting the stop-block.
9) Pull useless muffler off of the hangers and place in garage to forget about at a later date.
10) Curse Midas for putting on a replacement exaust system that only lasts 3 years.

ZV
 

notfred

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They work by making the end of your exhaust pipe shiny chrome colored. Or were you talking about mufflers?
 

BCYL

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Just leave your camry stock... It's not meant to be a sports car anyways, u will only draw "unwanted" attention (eg. ppl laughing at u, cops pulling u over)...
 

Howard

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If you really want to get picky about it:

Air filter > intake manifold > intake port > cylinder > exhaust port > exhaust manifold > catalytic converter > muffler > atmosphere

With a turbocharger, the differences are that:

1. Air coming into the cylinder is under more pressure.
2. Exhaust is routed to the turbocharger, then to the catalytic converter (IIRC).

An air filter might improve the exhaust note a tad, but what you want is a straight-through muffler (preferably paired with a mandrel-bent catback (the exhaust system from the catalytic converter straight till the muffler) with a diameter suitable to your engine - maybe 1.5"?). Magnaflow, Borla, GReddy, A'pexi, tanabe, etc. sell these.

If you want a full cat-back, you'll probably have to make your own. Magnaflow sells T304 stainless steel mandrel bent stock in different shapes and sizes, if you have lots of time on your hands. This is a likely option, because not many places have an exhaust for a Camry (and an old one at that).

BTW - don't listen to the people who say that cars need backpressure to work efficiently.

EDIT: What I meant by 'straight-through muffler' is one that has a straight exhaust path, meaning it follows the same direction as it did coming into the muffler going out, not one that makes the air flow in curves and loops and stuff while inside the muffler. And, make sure the muffler isn't louvered (little metal 'rings' jutting out into the exhaust path). Adds backpressure, which you don't need.
 

GasX

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You can actually get exhaust tips with "resonators" that supposedly change your sound. I wouldn't bet any money that they actually work. This would cost you <$50 and install would involve a screwdriver. Anything else and you need to go to a shop.

What you want is a "CAT-BACK SYSTEM" Referring to cocacola5's diagram above, you would be replacing everything in the exhaust system from the CATalytic conveter BACK to the muffle. For a couple of hundred dollars, you will get the sound you are looking for and even get miniscule power boost.

Personally, I think that "Type R" stickers are the best bang-for-the-buck performance boost you can get.
 

Howard

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Being the dumbass I am, I only now realized that you just wanted a tip.

*bangs head on keyboard

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mithrandir2001

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I added one to my 4-cyl Accord. The stock pipe is just an ugly carbon steel that's easily sooted, so the $25 I spent on a chrome tip was worth it for appearance-sake. No performance or sound gain...just appearance.
 

Howard

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<< For a couple of hundred dollars, you will get the sound you are looking for and even get miniscule power boost. >>


With a new catback, you'd certainly get more than miniscule power boost. A crushbent exhaust system doesn't do much for HP. :)
 

Cooltech2k

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Exhaust Tip - 50 Bucks - No performance Gain at all & Anyone who knows anything about cars will laugh....
Exhaust System - 150 Bucks - Performance Gain, Nice Throty Sound, People Will Only Laugh Cause You put a Performance Exhaust on a camry...


Most Local Muffler Shops Can Custom Build you a Performance exhaust for much less than you could buy a cat-back setup for... From my Own personal Experience:

Name Brand Cat-Back - 500 Bucks
Stock Replacement Cat-Back - 500 Bucks
Custom Bent Performance Exhaust - 150 Bucks - Plus They Can do it with the pipe size of your choice....