How did Oracle owner Larry Ellison get so rich?

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MrChad

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Oracle stuff only works up to certian sizes, after that you need better stuff. :p

Oracle databases can scale pretty damn large. There are few high volume use cases out there that require alternative solutions such as NoSQL.
 

Retro Rob

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Boy, I wonder how someone finds time while running a business, to sit and enjoy all the hundreds of millions of dollars worth of property he's purchased.

Must be nice having a 1 million dollar ET center.
 

GT1999

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Boy, I wonder how someone finds time while running a business, to sit and enjoy all the hundreds of millions of dollars worth of property he's purchased.

Must be nice having a 1 million dollar ET center.

A somewhat regular sized estate on Maui on the coast goes for ~40 million. On Lanai, I would imagine it to be about the same. Now, think of how many coastal estates are or CAN be on that many acres. It wouldn't take much for just the land alone from those estates to hit 500-600 million.

Now, it is also my understanding that on Hawaii, specifically Maui that almost nobody "owns" their land. They are handed out in 99-year leases from the government (in this case, the "County" of Maui, under the "State" of Hawaii). To give this guy ownership of the land is a huge, huge feat.

Perhaps there are specifics to the land that is not specified or that has yet to be laid out, because 500 mil for that entire island is chump change compared to what it is really worth.

It's pretty common for people to just go out and buy huge amounts of land when they get money, but this really takes the cake.

I don't know whether to be sad or be happy. I'm definitely sad for the people of Hawaii, but I hope he can spruse the place up, make it more energy efficient and environmentally friendly. Maui has been trashed in recent years with only certain areas of it under government control such as La Perouse Bay or Haleakala National Park to be left (relatively) untouched.
 

Farang

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Everyone, except for the biggest tech company in Seattle :)

Yes, but the super large corporations are sort of their own worlds. People go in there and never come back. Or the other large companies that use Oracle are usually ones based out of somewhere else, with an office in Seattle

In terms of small to medium size companies, it is all MS SQL in the Seattle area. No doubt because MS is nearby, but you couldn't fault someone from here for thinking it was more popular than it is
 

baydude

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By making enterprise software really difficult to use/implement and charging an arm and leg for consulting services for those very same software.
 
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Capt Caveman

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Yes, but the super large corporations are sort of their own worlds. People go in there and never come back. Or the other large companies that use Oracle are usually ones based out of somewhere else, with an office in Seattle

In terms of small to medium size companies, it is all MS SQL in the Seattle area. No doubt because MS is nearby, but you couldn't fault someone from here for thinking it was more popular than it is

I used to work at Clearwire in Kirkland. Oracle shop. REI is also an Oracle shop.
 

Farang

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I used to work at Clearwire in Kirkland. Oracle shop. REI is also an Oracle shop.

should we run through the list of every company with an it department in the greater seattle area.. you go first

I place software engineers in small to medium size companies in seattle. If you're an oracle developer I probably won't give you a call because it would be a waste of your and my time
 

Capt Caveman

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should we run through the list of every company with an it department in the greater seattle area.. you go first

I place software engineers in small to medium size companies in seattle. If you're an oracle developer I probably won't give you a call because it would be a waste of your and my time

Why? I just proved you wrong when you say 'all'.
 

Phokus

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I use Oracle Financial software for my work, it's just flat out terrible. I used SAP at another job and it's 1 trillion times better than that POS Oracle. Damn i miss SAP.
 

Jadow

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what's interesting about the MS vs Oracle talk here is that MS's database product SQL Server in my opinion is better than Oracle.

Licensing isn't nearly as bad, it scales great, and IMO is easier to work in. SQL Server Reporting Services which is a free add-on is really awesome too, and only getting better.
 

Capt Caveman

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I use Oracle Financial software for my work, it's just flat out terrible. I used SAP at another job and it's 1 trillion times better than that POS Oracle. Damn i miss SAP.

As someone who's been involved with Oracle Financials for 10+ years and now implementing SAP at my new company. I think as an end-user yes, SAP is better.

But from an IT perspective, one example, learning that SAP still requires a client installed on an user's pc makes me sad. Oracle has been web-based for so long I can't even remember.

A good thing though is that SAP can use Oracle as it's db.
 
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Phokus

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As someone who's been involved with Oracle Financials for 10+ years and now implementing SAP at my new company. I think as an end-user yes, SAP is better.

But from an IT perspective, one example, learning that SAP still requires a client installed on an user's pc makes me sad. Oracle has been web-based for so long I can't even remember.

A good thing though is that SAP can use Oracle as it's db.

Having a client on the PC is no big deal, but Oracle is just user unfriendly, unlike SAP. It blows me away that i can fucking drill down data in SAP but i can't in Oracle. PIECE. OF. SHIT.
 

sdifox

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I use Oracle Financial software for my work, it's just flat out terrible. I used SAP at another job and it's 1 trillion times better than that POS Oracle. Damn i miss SAP.

Oracle Financial is utter krap.
 

Ultrabook

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All I know is that the more money you have, the more easily you make. But I wonder what the inflection point is though.
 

yllus

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is it still megalomania if you really are super rich and powerful?

Man, that is an excellent question.

oracle and db2 are the kings of RDBMS

I think they're slipping a little bit - or at least they're not the inevitable purchases they once were. Google, Facebook and a number of other companies with enormous database needs don't run either, and smaller yet still large companies like the one I am employed at are actively trying to get out of using Oracle and switch to something free instead. Still, I don't see large insurance companies or banks moving anytime soon.

what's interesting about the MS vs Oracle talk here is that MS's database product SQL Server in my opinion is better than Oracle.

Licensing isn't nearly as bad, it scales great, and IMO is easier to work in. SQL Server Reporting Services which is a free add-on is really awesome too, and only getting better.

I agree - I got my start with Oracle 8i and have also got experience with 10i - I'd take MS SQL Server 2005 or 2008 over them in a heartbeat.
 

jagec

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should we run through the list of every company with an it department in the greater seattle area.. you go first

I place software engineers in small to medium size companies in seattle. If you're an oracle developer I probably won't give you a call because it would be a waste of your and my time

For some reason my eyes drifted to your sig halfwaydown the post, and I read. "I place software engineers in small to medium size companies in seattle. you can send 'em off to die on some godforsaken rock, but for some reason you can't slap 'em"