How crappy is my celeron?

[gpw11]

I'm currently running a celeron @ 900mhz, and am having some frame rate probs in recent games (specifically jedi-kinght II).

Now, I'm running these on a geforce 3 ti 200 overclocked to 230/530 mhz so I'm positive that its not the gpu.

I've got a feeling the celeron with the low FSB speed and low cache is causing a mjor bottleneck. Also the SDR p100 ram (antohter side-effect of the celly) probably isn't helping.

Do you think that it's my processor thats slowing me down?

Thansk for the help.

 

[DBandit]

how much ram you got? low ram can equal low frames as well.
if you got plenty, then its probably the celery.

 

[jiffylube1024]

Make sure ANISOTROPIC FILTERING is set to 'off' .. It causes a massive performance hit. The next thing is to change shadows from 'complex' or whatever to 'simple' ... that should give a 30% + increase.

Regardless, yeah a C900 is getting up there in age and isn't a high-speed CPU by today's standards.

 

[gpw11]

I have 256mb of ram, but it's Sdr ram @ p100.


I have shadows off and anisotorpic filtering off, but I seem to get the biggest hit in multi-player. SP is pretty smooth.

I'm planning on upgrading to an AMD athlon XP in the summer. Can I expect a pretty sizeable framerate boost?

 

[MrCraphead]

hell yeah!!! you can expect a massive increase in FPS. DO IT! your eyes will love you once you play JK2 on an XP. ;D

 

[gpw11]

Nice. Can't wait untill I start working again (stupid tuition fees).


BTW, Here's something I found out while experementing with JK2 MP today:

I wamessing with my settings, and there is almost no difference (5-10 fps MAX) between everything set on high, and the fastest setting. Wassup with dat?

 

[HardWareXpert]

Celeron's FSB is not very good at all considering a Duron has 200FSB 100x2 DDR, Celeron900/100MhzFSB=bad Bottleneck.

You can expect a huge FPS boost going from a Celeron900 to a AthlonXP, superoiur FPU, FSB 133x2/266Mhz DDR, oh, did i mention SUPEROIUR.

 

[gpw11]

Thanks for all the help and info. Much appreciated.

 

[Chucu]

HardWareXpert
When refering to FSBs of CPUS please remember that an intel CPU at 100FSB and an AMD CPU at 200FSB have the same FSB in reality. By the architecture of the chips it takes twice as many cycles to do anything on an AMD. Thus why AMD has gone to 200 and 266 FSB speeds, another reason for the much higher heat output.

Just some info,
Chucu

 

[FPSguy]

<< By the architecture of the chips it takes twice as many cycles to do anything on an AMD. >>

According to AMD one of the reasons its lower-clock-speed processors perform better than higher-clock-speed Intel processors is that the AMD chips complete more instructions per clock cycle.

 

[DivideBYZero]

Chucu->

<< it takes twice as many cycles to do anything on an AMD >>

WTF???? If you must know:

There is a 100 Mhz bus in both system BUT you get TWO data transfers per clock cycle with the EV6 bus on the Duron. Thats DDR. Data is transfered on the rise and fall of the clock voltage change, so in effect you get 200Mhz, hence twice the speed on the Bus than a celeron. The Celerons Mem bandwith is the worst in the industry. Even the Ball-licking VIA C3 has a 133Mhz bus now!

Plus, checkout the IPC of a Celeron Vs a Duron to see which can get more done in a clock cycle.

It does not

<< take twice as many cycles to do anything on an AMD >>

LOL, somebody STOP ME ROTFLMAO

Don't even start me on the fact you think thats why there is more heat...

 

[HardWareXpert]

<< HardWareXpert
When refering to FSBs of CPUS please remember that an intel CPU at 100FSB and an AMD CPU at 200FSB have the same FSB in reality. By the architecture of the chips it takes twice as many cycles to do anything on an AMD. Thus why AMD has gone to 200 and 266 FSB speeds, another reason for the much higher heat output.

Just some info,
Chucu >>



I know the FSB is 2x100Mhz=200Mhz FSB but it's DDR, the Celeron is 100Mhz FSB, AMD use a different bus system to Intel.

 

[CraigRT]

A Celeron 900 should still be able to play the game smooth, unless your FPS problem is FPS below 100 or something finatical.. Does it run choppy? or just not as astronomical as you'd like? If it's actually choppy, there IS A PROBLEM, but if the FPS is just not very high, it's cause of the CPU i'm sure. try overclocking even a few MHz to see if your fps goes up at all, then you will know if your CPU is a bottleneck or not ... which it is, but you will be able to tell if it is the problem piece of hardware for sure.